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Contents 1 Charlotte Church Daily Star link 2 David Blunkett point 3 Michael Grade is a cunt 4 Re: Nonce in "Nonce Sense" 5 The lists of celebs featured and mentioned 6 good job 7 Peadophile episode query 8 none of the guest celebrities understood that they were being lampooned until the show was aired

[edit] Charlotte Church Daily Star link

Here it is. I'm still having no luck with it - I get redirected to [1], which looks like, but isn't, a standard Microsoft web server error page.

I think the misterharold web server's set up to hobble direct-linking to images stored on it, because I can get the image if I search for it on the main page of the website.

Could a few people please check and verify this? (Make sure you're not getting a cached image when checking this out.)

I'm going to remove the link again in the meantime.

Gypsum Fantastic 00:00, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi, Gypsum Fantastic.

Thanks for ye olde heads-up.

I assume the site doesn't like the cut of your IP address' jib (or does like the cut of mine). Or something.

I'll see if I can find another scan.

chocolateboy 07:01, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No worries Chocolateboy. Thanks for your help

Gypsum Fantastic 08:58, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] David Blunkett point

David Blunkett is unlikely to ever see the programme in question. Zik-Zak 17:55, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I kind of see that as splitting hairs a bit. Any other comments? Gypsum Fantastic 00:07, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Only a few days ago, Blunkett was shown on TV saying "Nice to see you all again" to a bunch of reporters. There was more than a hint of irony, but it was in the "nice" not the "see". I suspect that blind people are a lot less sensitive about the whole "to see" verb thing than sighted people think they are. -- Avaragado 09:01, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Grade is a cunt

• Where is this to be found in the series? Dafyddyoung

• "Moral Decline". [2] [3]

• chocolateboy 04:27, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• I believe the actual text is simply "Grade is a cunt" Chris 05:18, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Yes, the actual text only uses Grade's surname. --Jacj 10:07, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

• And more specifically, in terms of location, it's overlayed on the bit where Morris is pulling the guts out of a sick Britain. If I remember correctly. Which I may not be. --bodnotbod 10:19, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Nonce in "Nonce Sense"

• Isn't nonce also a word for head?
  • I've never heard it used for peadophile before (though that is neither here nor there), though it does make sense with that definition.
    • But when Collins says "Nonce" doesn't he point at his head?
      • I've never heard "nonce" used to mean head, but "bonce" can be. Tim Ivorson 08:43, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
        • I'm certainly familiar with the term nonce as meaning paedophile. No, wait, that makes it sound as if I... --bodnotbod 10:14, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
          • Phil points at the word "Nonce" on the cap Morris has somehow managed to get him to wear as he says "Nonce", IIRC :) Tom Prankerd 16:31, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The lists of celebs featured and mentioned

I'm inclined to think that the lists of celebs merely mentioned is overly enthusiastic, However, I know some people like such things. But I wondered if anyone had the nous to put all that info in a table of some sort. It would look a lot better if it used the width of the page a bit more. Perhaps the 6 episodes in a 3 column by 2 row grid (or four rows if you have a divide between featured and mentioned)? Anyone know how to do it? --bodnotbod 10:32, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

I think it needs removing (the lists, altogether) and each episode perhaps having its own article. This would reduce the huge list on this page and be able to focus the article more on 'Brass Eye' than the episodes individually. I haven't seen any other tv show which has this format on Wikipedia so think it would be best to change it and make it more like other shows.-Localzuk (talk) 18:17, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I would agree with localzuk. The bit about mentioned celebrities is silly and they should all have a seperate article. Of course I won't do this myself but it would be greatly apreciated if someone did. User:Kevin Granther

[edit] good job

Well-done article, congratulations to the editors. Made me laugh, too. Herostratus 20:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peadophile episode query

I recall watching the programme and distinctly remember one element was a shot of a group of children with a man approaching them wearing a 'building' costume, accompanied by the voice of Chris Morris saying "Paedophiles have also been known to disguise themselves as actual schools in order to attract innocent children". Can anyone confirm this and possibly provide a screen-grab, as I believe it give a pertinent summary to the programme and its satirical aims. Bigpinkthing - Feb 14 2006

Yep, this was one of the funniest moments (IMO) in the show. Providing a screen grab would not really serve much purpose as it would be a fair use image and we already have 2. -Localzuk ^(talk) 14:19, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

You can watch this clip at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TedtkqWzCTE. I found it on a blog dedicated almost entirely to clips of Chris Morris programmes called Chicken Liver: Bits of Comedy, which actually includes the entire 2001 Brass Eye special. -Bungopolis 01:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

"...In 2001, the series was repeated, along with a new and entirely original extra show, which tackled the tricky subject of paedophilia and the associated moral panic prevalent in the media at the time..."

At the time? It's probably worse now, if anything.-195.93.21.39 21:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it worth putting anything in about Channel 4's cynical decision to screen the Pedophile episode late at night then again the very next day after the (inevitable) tabloid hysteria when all the disgusted's of Tunbridge Wells would be sure to tune in to view the "sick filth" themselves (having completely missed the original screening).--ElvisThePrince 15:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] none of the guest celebrities understood that they were being lampooned until the show was aired

Is there anything to back this up? It seems pretty absurd to me.

I've always suspected Tania Bryer ("but who's to say there's going to be a strong wind?") was used as a paid performer in the Science episode. More substantially, there was some suspicion at the time of the peadophile special that Gary Lineker was in on the joke. To the best of my knowledge, he never complained about the episode, unlike everyone else who took part. Also at the time he was a regular on another Talkback show (They Think it's All Over) and would surely have realised what was going on. And finally, if you watch the "Baltimora" bit about the text messages, you can momentarily but quite clearly see Lineker's straight face slip at the very end. --80.0.124.95 11:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)