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[edit] Urban legend
Is the precedence issue actually only an urban legend? It's fairly common in Texas to see the Texas flag and the US flag flown at equal heights, while in most states the US flag is flown on a taller flagpole. --Delirium 22:54, Feb 29, 2004 (UTC)
- It's an urban legend. However, current Texas flag code specifies that if the Texas flag is flown on a pole alongside the US flag, both flags should be on poles of equal height (3100.055). Note that both US flag code and Texas flag code specify no penalties or enforcement provisions, and as such are merely guidelines. Given that, Texans are going to do what they damn well please when it comes to flying flags. -- Cyrius|✎ 08:32, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I've seen the Massachusetts State flag at the same height as the US flag often (I live in MA).. But we should just go by what the flag law says. --24.147.128.141 16:39, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I find this phrase interesting: "Texas is the only state to be internationally recognized as an independent country".
While I suppose I could believe that no one other than the US ever bothered to recognize the Bear Flag Republic (though I would need some references on that), I find it hard to believe that no other country recognized the independent kingdom of Hawaii.
- Even the Texas flag code recognizes the Hawaiian flag (although it does not explicitly name it). -- Cyrius|✎ 08:32, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- The original 13 states where all internationally recognized as independent countries, had their own militias, their own constitutions, their own currency, their own customs, taxes and police, etc. The Republic of Texas was also an internationally recognized country, as was the Kingdom of Hawaii. Florida and California and Vermont were all independent for a short time but probably did not receive international recognition except for maybe from the U.S. --WisTex 09:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
"Unlike other states, Texas was an independent nation before it became a state, had its own Revolutionary War and creation story (who hasn’t heard of the Alamo?), and negotiated special considerations when it joined the union (the Texas flag, for instance, can fly at the same level as the United States flag)." -- PBS (http://www.pbs.org/speak/seatosea/americanvarieties/texan/)
The text I have pasted above was obtained from a PBS website and makes clear reference to the fact that the Texas flag can be flown at the same level as the US flag. The Texas Flag Code gives precedence to the US flag if they are both being flown on the same flag staff. -- osfancy
- The story that Texas has some sort of special agreement is still not true, and I'm disappointed in PBS for repeating it. Neither the Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States (US side) nor the Ordinance of Annexation (Texas side) contain any provisions regarding flags.
- The current US Flag Code only specifies that a state flag cannot be flown higher than the US Flag. Other states could fly their flags at the same height if they wanted to. Not that the flag code actually has any legal weight to begin with. -- Cyrius|✎ 21:26, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- Texas has no special status for its flag. The superior position for a flag under the US Flag Code is either the topmost position or the leftmost position. The US flag code specifies that a non-national flag must be flown below the US flag or "if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America" (4 USC 7(b)). Mateo SA | talk July 6, 2005 19:20 (UTC)
[edit] Comparing Texas flag to other flags
If you're going to note which flags look like it, then make a comprehensive list and don't feed the trolls who want to suggest one copied the other without a history of commonalities between them. b0at 22:15, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Original Flag of Texas
This article incorrectly states that the "Bonnie Blue" flag was the original flag of the Republic of Texas. This is a common mistake, but the original flag was the Burnet flag, which had a gold star, not a white one. The Burnet flag was used from 1836-1839. --JW1805 01:12, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Merge of World's Largest Texas Flag
I honestly don't believe that "World's Largest Texas Flag" is a topic that deserves its own article (it's probably both unencyclopedic and a vanity article), but it could conceivably be made a section in this one. -- Schnee (cheeks clone) 09:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. "World's Largest Texas Flag" is both an item (the flag) and short-hand for the use of it as part of traditions at the University of Texas at Austin (UT). The World's Largest Texas Flag article is encyclopedic and referenced. It would be inappropriate to discuss UT traditions on an article about the Texas Flag itself. Therefore, the subject should rightly be covered at its own article. Johntex\talk 17:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Disagree What if someone else makes a bigger flag? Then we'd have to un-merge it. Records are broken all the time, and it is not inconceivable that a rival school will break the record. Jaksmata 15:51, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Indivisible?
The Pledge to the Texas Flag uses the word "indivisible", although the Ordinance of Annexation states that "New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution ..." I haven't found anything repealing that condition, but it may have been repealed or rescinded when Texas rejoined the Union after the Civil War. 69.22.22.161 17:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Texaphyrin link
I know there is some suggestion that this chemical molecule has a star shape in it resembling a 5-pointed star, but is there any good reason for the Texas flag page to link to some molecule? Rigel1 18:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] texas flag (origin)
in spanish: Otra de las versiones más aceptadas al respecto plantea que fueron los texanos quienes se inspiraron en el emblema de Chile. Según la historia, la Fiebre del Oro en el oeste de Estados Unidos, a mediados del siglo XIX, llevó a muchos chilenos a viajar a ese país en busca de riquezas, los que para distinguirse entre sí montaban campamentos clavando en el suelo la bandera chilena distinguible desde grandes distancias. De esa forma ésta se hizo icónicamente muy reconocida, por lo que los texanos y chilenos que nunca volvieron a su patria lo adoptaron como emblema modelo de ese estado, pero para diferenciarlo, convirtieron el cuadrante azul en una banda vertical y pusieron la estrella blanca en su centro.
source: wikipedia
the most accepted version is about a priest who comes first to chile and after he went to a new mission to texas together with chilean workers to work in the gold fever era. This priest took the chilean flag and this flag image was very common like a real icon adopted finally to design the final texas flag.
source: "Historias y leyendas de Valparaiso". "Cronicas de la fiebre del oro y del salitre".
Honestly, Mauricio Puentes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.120.188.172 (talk • contribs).
- Saludos y gracias, Mauricio. I reverted your additions back in January after doing several searches to confirm the information - I came up completely empty with English sources. No online confirmations and none from any of my own history books. The actual history I found corresponds to the article here. Nothing about a priest or about the gold rush. Since we can't use "wikipedia" as an actual source, could you tell me more about your other two sources? I could not seem to find references to them. Thank you very much for helping with this! Kuru talk 01:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
