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Contents 1 Lt. Dan 2 Connection to The Idiot 3 More focus on the book? 4 Added spoiler quote 5 Vietnam War rally 6 Is the Lieutenant Dan Band the same Dan Band from Old School? 7 what, no criticism? 8 This is not a flaming contest 9 Filming 10 Trivia 11 crooked as a....... 12 US Army Rank 13 Movie Plot section of this article 14 "Differences from the novel" section should have spoiler warnings 15 What happened to the hollywood accounting section? 16 Gump/Pulp Fiction Parody 17 Paramount and the author - contested information 18 Two actors played young Forrest Gump

[edit] Lt. Dan

How did he live to see forrests wedding after he made peace with God? For a man with no legs swimming deeper into the ocean, I dont think his surivival would occur! RealG187 16:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Connection to The Idiot

Perhaps someone should discuss the similarities between the two, and possible inspirtation

[edit] More focus on the book?

I know the film is more well-known and popular, but I think the article should focus on the book equally. It's relegated to second place. Uthanc 09:28, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

If you have the time to, go ahead and do it. I've read the book, but its been soo long I don't have the foggiest what's different and what's what. Sorry :(

Uberpesh 19:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not clear on your logic. If the film is more well-known and popular, the article should focus on the film over the less-well-known and less-popular book. Powers 18:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Uthanc. 222.126.76.205 19:23, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I thought common practice in such cases was to split the reference between book and film (and character?) and have a disambiguation page at Forrest Gump to let users select which they wished to view. Or if the film is really most popular (which I think is likely), then it should be at this location and an italic statement at the top should say "For the book, see Forrest Gump (book). For the literature and film character, see Forrest Gump (character)."—This unsigned comment was added by Edonovan (talk • contribs) .

That seems fair. I believe that's what's done with A Series of Unfortunate Events. Powers 02:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, so not quite the same thing. But it still models seperating the book from the film. Powers 02:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Perfect solution Liu Bei 04:39, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

If you would like to split the two articles, definitely go for it! ^_^ grafikm_fr 12:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I generally support splitting film adaptations from the plays or books that they are based on. Just curious thought, is there anything in this article about the book? savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 18:34, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the split. - R_Lee_E (talk, contribs) 01:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the split although this article hardly has anything to do with the book in it, to make a succesfull split there would have to be alot of work put into the book page. Woldo 01:15, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm removing the split tag, since I think it's more meant for articles that are too long or that have sections that are well-detailed enough to stand alone. Right now, the discussion is for creating a brand new article (almost) that focuses on the book only. When that happens, awesome. But for now, this article is mostly movie-oriented, and its length is just fine. --Crisu 00:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

move to Forrest Gump (film) -- Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 01:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Books suck, movies are better, u see more and takes less time.. RealG187 16:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Added spoiler quote

I added the 'Your best friend could get shot' under quotes. Though should I have posted it under Trivia? [[Uberpesh|Uberpesh 19:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Someone with the IP 169.231.20.165 vandalized the quote with anti-war propaganda. 'Sometimes when people go to Vietnam, they go home to their mommas without any legs. Sometimes they don't go home at all. That's a bad thing. That's all I have to say about that'. I fixed it to what is supposed to say Uberpesh 13:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vietnam War rally

In that scene in Washington at that anti-Vietnam War rally, is that guy in American flag decal shirt who's speaking up on the stage, and tells Forrest to talk about the war, Abbie Hoffman? Because I'm almost positive it is, but I don't know how to fit in in the synopsis. VolatileChemical 23:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah he's wearing a flag shirt and Abbie Hoffman is listed in the credits. Go for it. -Tristan

Btw, Forrest gets his medal before the rally, since his mother fainted after Forrest shows his wound to the President. That was why Forrest was wandering around D.C. in the first place. Uagent 09:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is the Lieutenant Dan Band the same Dan Band from Old School?

Just curious.

I believe not. --Crisu 00:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what, no criticism?

For a movie with a huge conservative undertone to it, i find unusual to not find any type of criticism about the movie. eg: poor jenny's ultimate sin was to try to change the world throughout all decades, so she basicly dies for being a liberal, while good ol conservative forrest, he lives and becomes rich. In fact if im not mistaken, Forrest Gump was elected one the worst movies to ever win an oscar for bestpicture (along with rocky, wich was number 1).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.215.173.173 (talk • contribs) .

There probably is some. What could be added to this article is a paragraph summarizing all the cricitism with reference links to news articles within it. --Crisu 00:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

what's wrong with you punk? you punks always come and attack things, don't try to use intelligent words, you just said you're a liberal and wanna change the world and the movie made you cry, sure you had to make the remark of being the worst bla bla bla because you're a stupid agressive lowlife punk. i mean, the film is really good and i'm sorry, people who DO live like jenny always get fucked in the end, i hope you don't start vandalising the page and adding your point of views on the criticism. just read the book, gump is a pothead in the book, the book sucks ass. and you are such a stupid heartless punk that didn't noticed forrest the good old conservative has everything and does everything and bla bla bla but HE'S NOT HAPPY 'cause he doesn't have the girl, life still sucks doesn't matter what you do or have if you don't have the loved ones close to you. got it? GOT IT? and also, the most beatiful things of life for him are the stars and sunset, besides he's nice to people BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD TO by his mom, and he's not RICH 'cause he uses his money to HELP PEOPLE. you people just don't get it. go murder yout mom stupid anarchist! too ad hominem but jesus that's the only way this people understand. i'm so pissed off i don't care you guys giving me loads of crap, you just can't cover your sickness with fancy words sometimes!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.34.87.120 (talk • contribs) .

What the f***? Seriously. Medication and therapy strongly recommended.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.253.57.75 (talk • contribs) .

Yup. I think we have a WP:NCR violation here, people. --GunnarRene 18:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Nevertheless, even a movie one disagrees with politically can still be a good movie on its own terms (Birth of a Nation, or Nazi and Soviet propaganda films). I'm not sure FG (the movie) is wholly conservative anyway. Gump himself is totally apolitical, he just doesn't understand the issues. The Vietnam War comes across as a waste of lives, hardly a "conservative" view. Many of the famous people Gump meets end up dead from an assassin's bullet - hardly a message that would cheer the NRA.

I agree the movie has a neocon agenda. Very Leo Strauss. I recommend watching "Forest" after watching "Born on the 4th of July." I think "Forest" is an attack on "4th" and Oliver Stone.

are you serious that was the best movie ever and what problem do you have with a good person getting good things he tries to protect Jennie from herself and even gives her his medal of honor for fighting in the military, do you just got some sort of problem with people who are good hearted. Jennie was living sinfully more than anything else, she was in pornography, did every single drug, she was on a destructive path not a trying to do good for the world path. She was lost metaphorically and picked up by some bad people who sent her in a bad direction. Can you honestly tell me you feel Jennie was a better person than Forrest. He helped everyone he meet the best way he knew how. Exile 11:00, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

0.0 i havent even seen this kind of rhetoric in the socialism page. iv never sought political meaning in forest gump, i think its more about psychology then politics anyway, the simple minded versus the complex minded hmm..ever thought of that one? and that jenny dies has nothing to do with her 'liberal' lifestyle. and that shes messed up is due to her, uhm, overaffectionate father, not an open mind. in fact, it is her open mind that makes her so perfect for forest. and forest gets rich for being different from anyone else and acting outside of 'normality', theres nothing conservative about that. truly, seeking all this political meaning is pointless, thats not the theme of the movie at all· Lygophile has spoken 23:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This is not a flaming contest

This last bit of tripe will be removed shortly. This isn't the forum to criticize the film's alleged conservative bias (although it seems to have attracted just as much criticism for having a liberal bias). At any rate, the film touches many hotbuttons for polarized political opinions, but it should be discussed for its artistic merits instead. Best to let it stand as a great film adaptation of a good novel, that broke cinematic ground on many fronts, and left a deep impression on many who saw it. Landroo 01:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it's legitimate to discuss the political aspects of the film, since this was a genuine source of controversy. Perhaps we need some actual quotes from reviews which touch on the politics.

Exile 11:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filming

This movie was filmed a large part in South Carolina, but it wasn't even mentioned in the categories. Only two portions of the film were filmed in North Carolina, but five portions (including the "vietnam" area) were filmed in South Carolina. This is notable, and other films should be added to this category, but none are. Here is a link [1] to other places this movie was filmed. If anyone wants to fill them in, go ahead. 130.127.78.152

[edit] Trivia

Did you notice that the planes dropping the napalm in Vietnam were F-4 Phantoms?

Did you notice that grown up Forrest runs the same way as young Forrest?

Did you notice that each of Lieutenant Dan's relatives look exactly like him?

Lastly, Lieutenant Dan's Revolutionary war counterpart was infantry The Civil War guy was a flag bearer The WWI guy was Infantry The WWII guy was infantry at Normandy.

[edit] crooked as a.......

in the movie Forrest said on the schoolbus "Momma said it's shaped/crooked as a question mark"

is "politician" what he says in the book (because he is allegedly more cynical) - 203.205.122.196 22:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

It's stated in the movie during the scene where Forrest is being fitted for the braces. Later on, he says that his mother told him it was a crooked as a question mark. Uagent 09:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] US Army Rank

I just saw the movie, and it occurred to me that Forrest has a rank of Sergeant on his uniform, even though in the book he was a PFC and I doubt he was a Sergeant in the film.Delta Spartan 02:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I noticed this as well. I thought he was a PFC in the film. --MasterA113 20:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movie Plot section of this article

It seems to me as if the info given in the "Movie Plot" section of this article is pretty much the same as that given in the article Forrest Gump (character), though it may be worded somewhat differently. I wonder if the plot should be summarized briefly here, with a notice just below the header: "Main article: Forrest Gump (character)." Or should the articles be merged? Roxtar 03:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I've chosen the "main article" option; the plot here is cut down now. Roxtar 02:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Differences from the novel" section should have spoiler warnings

The section of the article titled "Movie Plot" has spoiler warnings around it. I notice that the section "Differences from the novel" doesn't have any spoiler warnings around it, even though it reveals quite a few details of the movie's plot. I think it should have spoiler warnings added to it as well.

Someone keeps messing with the "Differences in the novel section." The character is not called "Doug Gump" in the book.

The edit to Doug began on March 21. No one challenged it until tonight and several anon IPs have changed the name to different ones. Unless a source is provided, recommend stay with what was posted. Morenooso 04:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The source is the actual novel. As well as the rest of this entries, which do not mention a "Doug" name.

[edit] What happened to the hollywood accounting section?

There was major controversy that the Forest Gump book author Winston Groom didn't any back end points from Paramount for the movie due to Hollywood accounting practices. This was a major scandal since the film was such a financial and critical hit. The movie entry should have links to hollywood accounting from both the Forest Gump book and movie articles. Mention should be added to he author's wikipedia entry as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.107.18.132 (talk) 17:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Gump/Pulp Fiction Parody

I remember seeing a parody of Forrest Gump called 'Gump Fiction', where the actors were just acting out select scenes from Pulp Fiction, only putting in Forrest or Bubba in with Travolta and Jackson. Has anyone else seen this? Personally I thought it was hilarious, and am wondering if it has any relevance in Misc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.166.197.239 (talk) 05:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Paramount and the author - contested information

Following an WP:OTRS complaint I have temove the following from the lead:

" although Paramount claimed it was a commercial failure and did not pay Groom his share of the profits.Marshallinside article on Hollywood accounting As such, Groom has refused to allow the novel's sequel, Gump and Co., to be filmed, stating that he could not in good conscience sell the rights to film the sequel to a failure. "

1. The first claim is sourced, but pretty badly. If it is true, and the complainer convincingly claims it is not, then there must be much better media sources. Replace this only if you can find undisputable ones. It seems incredible that paramount could make such a claim
2. The claim about the sequal is unsourced. Again, if this were true there would be huge media coverage. Find it, or keep both out.

--Doc^g 10:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two actors played young Forrest Gump

I just checked and both tonight's edit (just prior to this post) and the earlier correction are both listed at IMDb as playing young Forrest Gump. Could another editor confirm and make the right edit listing both. Morenooso 01:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)