Talk:Franklin Lashley
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[edit] Wrestlemania
sources: Pro Wrestling Torch, PWInsider.com Audio
Donald Trump appeared on the Imus in the Morning program on WFAN in New York and MSNBC. He promoted his WrestleMania match with Vince McMahon, calling Vince "a great guy." He said WM is totally sold out and that 100,000 people will be in attendance. When the host asked him who his wrestler was, he told him it was a guy named "Lindsey" in reference to Lashley. Also, it took a few moments to think of him before "Lindsay" came out. The host tried to get Trump to admit that wrestling was fixed, but Donald chose his words carefully and put over the wrestlers as great athletes. He referred to "Lindsey" as a black gentleman who is the strongest guy he's ever seen. Trump also said that a percentage of the earnings from the match are going to charity
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- Why is Donald Trump listed as Lashley's manager?.... i know he will be ringside for the one match butis it really needed here... i dont think we are gonna add Vince to Umaga's manager list --- Paulley
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- heh, I don't that should be down there either. Govvy 14:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Entrance
Does anyone think Bobby Lashley´s new entrance since moving to ECW should be noted on trivia as formerly used by Brock Lesnar? if no say so untill it will be there.
- No it really isnt notable, its just like the early edits stating that Lashley is the black Brock Lesnar. People walk to the ring and do you know what Torrie's walk to the ring is the same as Maria's lets go note it... i think not --- Paulley
[edit] Spear
I don't know why people keep changing spear off of bold. WWE.com recognizes it as his second finishing move. In WWE fantasy, they label it as his new finisher, added because of his recent usage. Other wrestling articles base finishers off of what wwe.com labels, so I don't see why it wouldn't work here. --Sentinel boy 20:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- It is not a finisher it is not on the WWE profile as a finisher and he has never used it to finish a match... it is not a finisher!!!!! --- Paulley 21:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Look in WWE Fantasy, they have added it as his second finisher. I am fairly certain he has won at least one match with it(I think it was Joey Mercury for some reason). For the most part, though, I'm basing it off of the fact that WWE.com is saying it. For example, the naming of Carlito's overdrive and rolling cutter were based off of what the WWE Fantasy section labeled for his finishers. --Sentinel boy 20:50, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- He has never won a match with the move... i will admit its is his biggest signature move other than his Dominator finisher but he has yet to win a match with the move... Carlito's moves were used as finishers in OVW and WWE respectively and have both featured onhis WWE.com profile at somepoint with its naming... when, and only when, Lashley hits this move and pins an opponent will it become bolded.... ok so as soon as i see proof he has finished a match with it then you can do as you wish --- Paulley 08:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Bobby Lashley has now won a KOTR semi-final match against Finlay with a Spear on SmackDown's 11/5 show in San Diego. I will now bold it as a result. But DO NOT italic bold it please. ;)
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- Fair enough, but i dont think anyones gonna italic bold it... unless he starts calling it something different. --- Paulley
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Why wouldnt it be italic bold.. he won the WWE US Champion from the move against JBL.. Not any different from Goldbergs using it as a finisher.. And it seems he stoped using the Dominator now.. I even heard the comentary call the running powerslam the Dominator once or twice. Im not saying it should be called that.
its a generic name... italics are used if he named the move --- Paulley 11:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ring name
His current ring name is not "Bobby Lashley," it is "Lashley." He was only called "Bobby Lashley" for about a month after his callup. Yeah, the ring announcer might still say "Bobby," but looky here, it's just "Lashley." Tromboneguy0186 21:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
WWE rarely update there profiles so its now back to Bobby Lashley (Its what he's known as on the SD! Show BionicWilliam 02:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
WWE have updated it. He is now officially called just Lashley. And rightly so, Bobby sounded too comedic. The only person that still says Bobby is the ring announcer.217.42.229.18 15:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've been hearing him as Bobby Lashley lately on TV, and not just by the ring announcer. --JFred 06:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was not moved. Eugène van der Pijll 16:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Franklin Lashley → Bobby Lashley – Better known as Bobby. Seems to be supported by WP:NAME. --JFred 06:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Survey
- Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
- Oppose - to early in his career real name is fine --- Paulley
- Oppose - As Paulley implies, his ring name could change at any time. --Jtalledo (talk) 18:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Weak oppose WWE can't seem to decide between "Lashley" and "Bobby Lashley," and even if they do lean toward "Bobby," it's not defintive. Tromboneguy0186 08:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
The general rule of thumb with professional wrestlers is to use their real life name instead, unless there's compelling evidence to do otherwise (i.e. a wrestler like The Rock who uses the name for his movie career). --Jtalledo (talk) 18:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- But I remember when he was first signed, he was known as Bobby Lashley, so it sounds like he goes by Bobby outside the ring as well. --JFred 19:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, in OVW, he was apparently known as "Blaster Lashley". [1] --Jtalledo (talk) 19:09, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
[edit] What was with that thing about Lashley dieing?
I was on last night and the bio said that two weeks after his Elevated Enzimes he died in a car crash, was it the same thing as the Ron White Thing where it was just made up? Or was he really in a car crash?
That was vandalism and false information. To cause suspection just like this. Thoug the part about the elevated enzymes of the liver was real. --Mikedk9109 20:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] ECW
Is on ECW offically or just temp. It had been rumored that he wanted to leave his Smackdown Contract.--Kevmicester2000 02:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I thought he had moved to ECW, due to being in the Extreme Elimination Chamber at December to Dismember, and because of this I edited the article saying he was performing for ECW. However, WWE.com is promoting a tag team match on Friday Night Smackdown with Booker and Finley vs. Batista and Lashley, so at the moment, I don't think we can know for sure. He's still listed under the Smackdown superstars, but WWE.com has been known before to not being the most punctual when it comes to adding superstars or changing what shows they're on. I saw on the article page he's just listed as performing for WWE, and I think that's the right move for now, at least until we know for sure which show he's on. Anakinjmt 21:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Can I get some help with the finishing and signature moves section?
So, someone messed with the finishing and signature moves section. I'm doing my best, but I don't really know HTML code or Wiki code that well, so if someone that does know what they're doing can fix it, that'd be sweet. Anakinjmt 21:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I've fixed it. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 22:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lashley is on ECW
Bobby Lashley is now on ECW; he signed the contract for the Elimination Chamber at an ECW Pay-Per-View; WWE.com states Lashley's last Smackdown match was tonight as he's headed for ECW; and all through the night Michael Cole kept saying Lashley was ECW bound. So, please, stop taking out the fact that he's on the ECW brand, as he is. Maybe you want him to stay on Smackdown, but that's no excuse for taking it out. Anakinjmt 03:23, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Again, until it is confirmed on WWE.com, and his profile is moved to the ECW section, then it stays as is. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 03:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't it WWE.com OR announced on TV? I'm pretty sure it is. Matches are put that are announced on WWE television long before it ever gets up on the web. Now, the case for Survivor Series was different, as those matches were first unveiled on WWE.com. But, for this, it was announced on WWE television. Not to mention, WWE.com isn't the most punctual when it comes to updating profiles or moving them to different shows. It's been made official; therefore, it should be here. Anakinjmt 03:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Yeah, they haven't added him, but remember how long it took them to add Jeff Hardy? -- THLCCD 04:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- If he appears on the next edition of ECW competing as an ECw star or his profile is moved then change it... but until then leave as is --- Paulley 15:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, they haven't added him, but remember how long it took them to add Jeff Hardy? -- THLCCD 04:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Heres proof, from right here on WWE.com
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- The match marked Lashley’s final bout at SmackDown before he leaves to join ECW. The future extremist went out with a bang as he helped the Animal take on some formidable competition. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 15:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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- well, thats proof enough for me --- Paulley
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- And his profile is now in the Extremists section. -- Mikedk9109 (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Elevated enzymes in the liver
What does it mean to have elevated enzymes? How do you get this? And was this real or just a part of the show / coverup? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.248.238.6 (talk • contribs).
- It means that you have too high of a concentration of certain proteins. It was real, and it is caused by the use of certain steroids. -- THLCCD 07:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
can sb change the photo of lashley? this one sucks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.218.42.248 (talk • contribs).
can sb change his photo? this one really sucks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.218.42.248 (talk • contribs).
If no ones replaced the photo since you last asked, it means that we don't have one better. -- THLCCD 07:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Not steroids, hormones. Steroids enhance glands to make more of the hormone testosterone, but he was using hormones, not steroids. -m.d.
[edit] ECW sub-section
Okay, I wanted to make it easier for editors and editing and also dividing up his profile by adding a sub section for ECW. Can't we at least do that? We all know that ECW is part of the WWE now. But you must understand this is like a new Era for Lashley and you have to have division somewhere... Govvy 10:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Well i think editors can find the bottom of the career section easy enough... If over time we did section it it would most likely be done by year rather than brand... also if we did do it by brand it wouldnt be under "Extreme Championship Wrestling" as WWE's brand is just "ECW". -- Paulley
[edit] Lashley's ECW belt
What about the debate this wiki is getting about "ECW World Heavyweight Championship" vs "ECW World Title", even though the wiki article for the belt in question is ECW World Heavyweight Championship - thoughts? --Mikecraig 02:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- If you're referring to my recent reverts of an anon trying to switch the links, it should be taken care of by now. I explained the article title thing to him/her on his/her talk page, and they haven't shown up on my watchlist yet. Cheers, -- THLRCCD 02:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Yes hopefully that will stop...--Mikecraig 02:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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- The belt clearly says heavyweight on it! heh. Govvy 12:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Dominator
I'm putting the Dominator back onto the list. I know he doesn't use it as often, but he still uses it sporadically. Usually in a squash match. Jam
Just like to point out that this week's ECW results news on wwe.com it was stated as Dominator running powerslam. Govvy 12:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Also all past finishers have to be shown as far as i know and should therefore be left up anyway Fubarbundy 11:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Belly To Belly Suplex
Someone switched Overhead Belly To Belly Suplex to Side Belly to Belly Suplex. Based on how the fact it usually varies depending on the weight of the opponent I shortened it to Belly to Belly Suplex. Jam
[edit] Billed Height
Someone has requested that Lashley's height isn't changed back to 6'3" and it remains 6'2" based on "actual measurments". WWE/ECW.com and the commentators on ECW bills his height as 6'3", should we change it back? Jam
Actual measurements and billed measurements are two completely different things. If they bill him at 6'3", then it will be changed back to 6'3". Bmg916 Speak to Me 20:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Protection
I have filed a RfP for this page. Hopefully it will be semi-protected soon. Peace, 声援 -- The Hybrid 03:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's not that bad is it? Govvy 12:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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- The macro problem is terrible. Verdict (talk • contribs) has created over 70 abusive sockpuppets at last count and easily bypasses semi-protection. He is deliberately going out of his way to upload images which violate copyright and to add them to articles. As to whether the problem is bad on this particular page, that's not so clear. However, I can guarantee you that as soon as this page is semi-protected or unprotected, Verdict will use one of his socks to continue his abusive behaviour here. By the way, you may wish to comment on a community ban on Verdict at WP:CN. Thanks for your time and sorry for the hassle. --Yamla 14:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Army Career/Rank
Could this section be expanded just a little? i was looking for details on his career before wrestling, particularly the rank he achieved in the army etc, did he see service anywhere? 02:33, 2 March 2007 Vwwe
You have to look through the news archive on wwe.com there was some stuff there you can use as reference material. Probably should of been added to his bio. Govvy 10:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Append request
Hi. If you don't mind, could an admin append the last paragraph of the ECW section to the following (with all coding included):
I think that Lashly's breaking of the Master Lock should be added to the accomplishments section. I mean if Ken Kennedy's has him winning the Smackdown Sprint, why not Lashly breaking a hold that no one else had for about 2 years? Pharoah103090
Lashley then had successful title defenses against Big Show, Rob Van Dam, Test, Hardcore Holly, RAW´s Kenny Dykstra and SmackDown!´s Mr. Kennedy. On an edition of RAW held on March 19, 2007, Lashley officially became the first person to break Chris Masters' twenty-three month long Masterlock Challenge.
Thanks in advance. -- Oakster Talk 14:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Real Counted Lost? (March 26 ,2007 Raw)
in the Lashley v.s McMahon No DQ match, Lashley was low blowed and samoa dropped on the mat and Vince had covered him but his left shoulder was not on the mat and Lashley kicked out about 2-3 time (lighty)! But the Ref still counted! Does that really count as a lose to Bobby? Vince also pined Bobby after the match. Dro Boy March 26,2007
[edit] Edits
I didn't realize vandalism was so bad on this page...and I certainly didn't know about Verdict (talk • contribs). I'm sorry the page has to be protected.
I just noticed a few things that are minor, but could still be changed if an admin or mod could indulge:
- 3rd paragraph under early career, the internal link of "heel" in the article goes to the actual heel instead of Heel (professional wrestling)
Done Harryboyles 13:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- 6th paragraph under smackdown, a few spaces are needed between some words, and some internal links would be helpful to identify some of the names mentioned (e.g. Battle royal (professional wrestling) and RVD); especially the ambiguous "MNM".
Done Harryboyles 13:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- under personal life I'm not so sure the mention of the tatoo is necessary, at least not under that section...possibly for trivia? --JohnDoe0007 13:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help guys...although, Harryboyles--is there any reason you did not add internal links for Rob Van Dam and/or MNM? It is the first time they are both mentioned in the article, and they both have substantial articles of their own. I think the links would be helpful. Other than that, glad you could help. --JohnDoe0007 07:21, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- {{editprotected}}. I added those links, and I think that resovles this request. CMummert · talk 18:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Can somebody removed the "Lashley" from the ringname section, or at least de-bold it? His current ringname is "Bobby Lashley", he is only called Lashley the same way any person is sometimes referred to by just their last name. TJ Spyke 01:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Also, in the category section, this nonsense should be removed: "lashley is one of the dominating superstars of the making, he won
the U.S.A championship and the ECW world championship he was in the ring with booker T , finlay and many other super stars and dominated through the whole match Franklin". And there needs to be a comman inserted in the "People from Colorodo Springs" category. TJ Spyke 01:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Another. In the third paragraph of the SmackDown section, "Royal Rumble 2006" needs to be changed to "Royal Rumble (2006)". In the third paragraph of the Early career section, a link to "WWE RAW" needs to be changed to "WWE Raw". TJ Spyke 01:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)