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[edit] Discussion

[edit] addition of vfemmes.com link

In response to your query, I added the link because I felt that it was appropriate to have the band's site there because not enough information had been provided on the band members, particularly on the 'Horns of Dilemma' who had not been mentioned at all in relation to the Violent Femmes. I have added a more specific link now, which pertains to more personal information on the band, the HoD, and also anecdotes about the band and their experiences together.

I am aware that Wikipedia articles should stand on their own, but when discovering the Violent Femmes I think it would be helpful to have a link to the Violent Femmes site itself, perhaps at the bottom of the page under 'additional links' or something. Being relatively new to Wikipedia, and having had my edit challenged, I leave this to the discretion of more practised Wikipedians.

I have to say, on looking at the discussions here concerning the Violent Femmes, it seems that some excessively aggressive debating is going on, and I think that the page should not be so aggressively disputed. It seems that I stepped onto a bomb site when editing, for which I apologise. Ecoelen2k 23:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Violent Femmes

It's on my watchlist. If you are interested in working on music articles, you should check out WP:ALBUM, and its talk page, which is where the guidelines for albums are, and also take a look at Smile (album) which is, as far as I know, the only featured article on an album that we have (not ideal!). Revolver (album) is currently having a lot of work done upon it, and may be close to featured article status as well. As for creating articles on re-issues, I would encourage people to expand the original album article with that information, and only when that article becomes too long to split any information off. Jkelly 17:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh hey, oops. I did not mean to edit that out...it was in the midst of doing other things. I will put it back in, I know nothing about the Violent Femmes so I have no dog in the fight. TKE 20:50, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

On reviewing my change, I think I viewed it as speculation. Seeing your contributions, I stand by putting it back in as you make a compelling case. TKE 02:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] n/s

I'm pretty bad about previewing my changes. Jkelly 04:54, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Wikiproject Albums

I thought I would answer your question here since you are probably not checking back on the talk page for WP:Albums. - As far as I know, quotes are required on the discography lists for singles as well. As for the redlinks on albums, they are probably a bad idea, and they are probably not mentioned here because most redlinks for albums would be found on the band's page and not an album page. So I would try to refrain from redlinking albums unless you plan on making a page for the album in the near future. I hope this answers your question. Weatherman90 00:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Violent Femmes' first album

Violent Femmes' first album was released in 1982, see http://vfemmes.com/disc-vfemmes-1.htm. Let's not get into an edit war on the release date. Mike Garcia 05:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: plural versus singular, on band names

Now I replied on Talk:Violent Femmes. Mike Garcia 02:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Gufs

How did you hear about The Gufs? They seem to be limited to Wisconsin. I think its funny how you found that article's author by checking out the author of a seemingly unrelated article!! Do you like my pic from the pits? Do you think its too gutsy displaying my pic? Royalbroil 22:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for inspiring me to listen to some songs from The Gufs. Smile is such a great tune! I wish I still lived in Sheboygan so I could hear the song on the radio from time to time.

You can add any Wisconsin bands to the List of bands from Wisconsin. I took the liberty of adding Mrs. Fun. Make sure they have blue links or they will have to be removed (I haven't added my cousin's band from Milwaukee because they are not notable according the WP:MUS guideline). Royalbroil 04:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

My cousin is in Signal to Shore. Royalbroil 05:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "moved categories from category to artist"

Hi. Do you know if there any's consensus or policy on this? It seems to be a total mishmash at the moment. Please reply on my talk page or at Talk:Jimmy Cauty. Thanks. --kingboyk 15:21, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Jimmy Cauty. Thanks for asking. -Freekee 15:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gorcrows

Hi there. Thanks for the comments about Gorcrows. I agree that having it at the plural name is wrong. I will correct that when I have the time. As for the category, well, that part of the category system is not perfectly organised yet. There are several other things there that aren't really "races", but have been put there until someone puts them somewhere better. I've got that on my list to sort out as well. As for whether or not Gorcrows should be in the category system (by categorising the redirect), I think they should be. The category system is not meant to be used instead of a search, rather it is a browsing tool to complement searching. ie. browsing is different from searching. I think readers should be able to find Gorcrows by: (a) browsing (hence the category); (b) searching (hence the mention in the Mewlips article); and (c) following links from existing articles (only one article links to Gorcrows at the moment). I don't really mind if you put the redirect up for deletion, but I would present these arguments against it if you did. Plus the argument that the edit history before redirection needs to be preserved (not so important here, but often important in other cases). I hope that's answered some of your concerns, and thanks again for the comment. Carcharoth 23:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

OK. I think the only thing we still disagree on is whether these redirects from "articles that have been merged into larger articles" should be categorised in article categories. I think they should, but I do see your point that people clicking on it from the category might expect an article, rather than a redirect. I may move these kind of redirects into a "minor FOO" category, similar to the "minor characters" lists that Wikipedia has. To some extent though, I think the message "redirected from FOO" at the top, helps the reader understand what has happened. Carcharoth 09:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Deleted comment at the Village Pump

It's still there. I don't know what you're talking about. SilentRage 22:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I see it at the bottom. Somebody must have fixed it. SilentRage 03:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of bands from Wisconsin

I noticed that they got rid of all of the states' articles. Check this out: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States musicians. I thought about doing an administrative review of the deletion, since they didn't bother to add the article to all of the states' pages. How could anyone have know that their state's list was about to be deleted? I decide not, because 1) the article was so difficult to maintain, 2) frequent vandalism, and 3) needed constant checking to keep off the red links. Doing it by categories FORCES the band to have an article, so I think its a better way. The down side is that noone thinks to look for a category, when it should be a list. You can review the administrative review procedures somewhere on the WP:AFD article if you choose. I gonna let this one pass. Whoever deleted the article should have cleaned up the dozens of red links that they created in Wisconsin. I wonder how many hundreds of red links they created nationwide. I wonder if I could use my AWB to clean it up.

I'm still listening to The Gufs CD in my car since you contacted me. I saw them a few weeks ago at Oshkosh for the first time! They were excellent. Thanks for your comments! Royalbroil 03:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't see the article tagged for AFD. The list was on the WikiProject Wisconsin watchlist, so I most likely would have seen the change, although I haven't been on wikipedia very much this weekend. I bet they could bring the article back for a short time so you could populate the category. I don't think they followed a proper procedures by deleting states' articles without nominating each and every state. It sure doesn't look like it from the AFD link that I gave you. I occasionally participate in the AFD voting. Royalbroil 03:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I have also left a message on the closing admin's talk page complaining about the number of red links that were created that should have been fixed. Royalbroil 04:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Freekee, and thanks for the notification. After closing this AfD discussion, the only article I deleted was List of United States musicians, while another admin deleted List of bands from Wisconsin and other such articles. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. If needed, I can restore the list(s) into your userspace until the deletion review is settled. Thanks, Sango 123 15:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for creating categories for those articles. It looks like the lists are gonna be deleted. I have awarded you the "outspoken barnstar" for your efforts! --Royalbroil 02:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your appreciation, but the star seems to be meant for political discussion. And though it took me a couple of nights to populate the categories, and I did bring the matter to the public, I'm not sure I deserve a barnstar for it. :-) But thanks for noticing. And thanks for watching those list pages in the first place. -Freekee 03:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I stand behind giving you a barnstar. I have changed it to a THUMBS UP award, though. Per Wikipedia:Barnstars: "It is the custom to reward Wikipedia contributors for hard work and due diligence by awarding them barnstars." You were bold and your diligent actions set a wonderful precident for something inheritantly wrong with AFD. I don't think that barnstars should be given out easily, just in rare exceptional cases like this. --Royalbroil 02:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. That, I'll take. :-) Thank you very much! -Freekee 02:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] X-American list proposal

Hi, I am contacting you as you have expressed some interest in the current arguments over lists of X-Americans. I would appreciate if you could have a read of my proposal and state whether you support or oppose it Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Thanks! Arniep 11:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: your edits to unincorporated

Please respond at Talk:Unincorporated area. Thanks. --Coolcaesar 09:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Licensing of own picture

You can use {{No rights reserved}} -Nv8200p talk 21:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Hi,

When you get a chance, please check the music WikiProject discussion page for my reply to your last response. --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 01:56, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category free use images

Thanks for taking the time to let me know I had added a private page to a category by mistake. I appreciate that. --cda 13:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Wisconsin state parks

I'd like to consult with you on your recent edits to Wisconsin state park system pages. There's a wonderful neatness to the changes, but officially all state parks and state recreation areas, some of the state forests, and a few other oddball designations (e.g. the Scenic Waters Areas) are all part of the Wisconsin state park system. The official list is here on the WDNR website. I'm concerned that separating out the various designations masks that they are all administered together as one system. Whether a site is designated a state park or state recreation area sometimes seems to be a matter of legislative expedience rather than a difference in quality. Moreover, some WI state forests are administered by the Division of Parks and Recreation as part of this system, and others by the DNR's Division of Forestry as non-recreational, sustainable forests. Listing the Parks and Rec forests together with the other state park units clarified this division. Just something to think about; I'm interested to hear your views. McGhiever 13:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Good question. The reason I went ahead with separating them (aside from the obvious), was the heavily crosslinked "see also" sections. My only problem with doing it in separate lists were the odd types like scenic waters and a few others. I'd be okay with combining them back if we can make sure the names and descriptions of the lists work, and also that they are searchable. Like calling it "List of Wisconsin state parks, forests and recreation areas" (or something, since that's very long), and then leaving the current lists as redirects to it. I wouldn't be opposed to putting all three categories in Category:Parks in Wisconsin. Any suggestions? -Freekee 01:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Free use images category?

You made a comment on my talk page (User_talk:Ron_Johnson) about putting nowiki tags on something I'd uploaded. I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I presume you can just go ahead and do whatever you were discussing. Again, I'm not sure what you were referring to exactly, so I can't be more specific.

I'm sorry, I don't contribute to wiki* projects anymore, the deletion activities I've seen piss me off, so I choose to make no further contributions, other than the odd comments, like this one. I also don't check my talk page very often anymore. --Ron 22:28, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Botched Fix

Thanks for catching that!

Ursatz 05:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:SIG

Thank you for the concern. I am aware of WP:SIG, but after probably 8k edits since I started using the sig (2k in ~~~~ marking), it hasn't been a problem. Thanks again and cheers! -- moe.RON ^{Let's talk | done} 06:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD comment

Re: this: I myself thought about writing some joke comment saying, "This is spam. Don't do it again or you'll be blocked." But as someone might have taken that a bit to seriously, I'd say your comment was a safer way to go. :-) Heimstern Läufer 05:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3 (Violent Femmes album)

I'm confused by your message. The article has only one source. I used the one-source tag. Why would I want to use a different one, and which one would you recommend? If I'm missing something, please point it out. Rklawton 04:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I tagged it thusly because I saw only one source cited. I see billboard information, but I see no source for this information. The article should indeed be expanded to include reviews, but that's a separate issue. Rklawton 04:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

It's a new day, and a see your point. I'll fix the tags accordingly. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Rklawton 15:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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