Talk:Gardiner Expressway
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What's with the highly biased pro-expressway language in this article? Whatever your opinion on the Gardiner is, it shouldn't be so evident in the writing style. This needs to be rewritten more objectively.
No exits are signed on the Gardiner Expressway. Exit numbers from 427 to Lakeshore were signed, but all distance markers and exit numbers have long been removed. Exit numbers should not be shown on this page, since they do not exist on the highway. --24.103.242.178 08:28, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. There is no evidence to support that the City will ever issue exit numbers to Gardiner exits, so it is misleading to list them here. I will remove them. Darkcore 09:44, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wow. Fat pig or whoever really butchered the hell out of this article. Now it doesn't even make any sense. Darkcore 07:20, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- It's really horrendous now. A great example of bad editing. I hope it can be salvaged. Most of the material is still there. I just don't have time right now. Moncrief 07:23, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
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- I did what I could. I will work on it more later. Darkcore 08:30, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've reverted a section on volumes for various modes entering downtown. The City's screenline data show automobile traffic entering downtown hasn't changed significantly since the 1970s, although it shows some minor fluctuations. Sources include The Future of Downtown Toronto (PDF) and A Transportation Vision for the City of Toronto Official Plan (PDF). --Bjhtn 02:12, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Scarborough Expressway
I did some minor editing of the section on the Scarborough Expressway extension. It was not demolished due to low volumes, but rather the high maintenance costs were deemed to be better spent creating a grade-level avenue. Moreover, the demolition was seen as a test-case for the eventual demolition of the entire Gardiner downtown. I also removed the reference to the DVP being congested due to the fact that the Scarborough Expressway was never built. Yes, the DVP is busier than it otherwise would have been had the SE been built. Given the explosive growth in York Region over the last 20 years, compared to the relatively stagnant growth in Scarborough and Durham Region, most of the congestion on the DVP is due to other factors. It would still be a parking lot even if the SE had been built. Skeezix1000 21:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
