Talk:Hägar the Horrible
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[edit] Requested move
- Copied from WP:RM. Dragons flight 03:03, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
Hägar the Horrible → Hägar the Hørrible - This is the character's proper name. Krun 18:21, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
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- Oppose. As far as I know Hägar the Horrible is the common way to write the name. – AxSkov (☏) 05:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. He is, as far as I am aware, always referred to as Hägar the Horrible in comic strips about him. The book about him is titled Hägar the Horrible's Viking Handbook. I haven't been able to find any reference to the spelling given by Krun outside Wikipedia. -- Naive cynic 14:41, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. In fact, even "Hägar" is kind of counterproductive, given that that's not the name of the character or the comic strip. See Heavy metal umlaut. --Quuxplusone 23:13, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose as proposed, but move to "Hagar the Horrible" as it is in the work itself, as furrykef and Quuxplusone indicate in comments below. Jonathunder 01:25, 2005 September 7 (UTC)
- Oppose. The logo on the official site reads 'Hägar the Horrible' but the text describing the character reads 'Hagar the Horrible' - and, IMHO, since the logo is the "brand", this should dictate the spelling, not how someone has deicided to transcribe it on the same site. (Perhaps the person could not figure out how to type the "ä" or perhaps they had "foreign character blindness" (as I like to call it) - a phenomenon that I have observed many times over in my life as a Scandinavian living in an English-based country.) Andreas Toth 01:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. Dragons flight 07:21, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
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The official site does seem to show it as "Hägar the Horrible", although I remember reading once that the "ø" is sometimes also used for extra vikingness. (I thought there was a mention of this on heavy metal umlaut, but it's not there now.) sjorford (?!) 08:08, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
We should avoid problematic alphabets in English titles. Diacritics and such. Is it not sufficient that all these viking letters are presented ansd explained in the article text?? 217.140.193.123 08:49, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- I hardly think that Latin-1 characters can be considered problematic. The vast, vast majority of readers should be able to display "ä" and "ø" with no problems. sjorford (?!) 09:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Question in the proposal above is about letter ø and whether it is easy to write, as it would be inb the title, thus needed for links - Thanks for your attention. 217.140.193.123 09:47, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- You'll still have Hagar the Horrible as a redirect page, so everyone should be able to access the page easily. Krun 13:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
This is a case were I do not disapprove of the use of funny foreign squiggles because that is precisely what they are being used for! Philip Baird Shearer 19:13, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
It is worth noting, however, that Hagar's name always appears "Hagar", without the umlaut, within the dialogue of the comic itself, even though it's trivial for the cartoonist to draw a pair of dots over the letter "A". - furrykef (Talk at me) 17:28, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yup. And the name of the strip always appears as "Hagar the Horrible," even online. I've never seen "Hägar" in print — in fact, it doesn't appear to make sense as a Norse name in the first place. We don't even have a redirect at Spın̈al Tap; why should this gratuitous umlaut be any different? :) Use the name the cartoonist uses in the strip, and the most common name known to readers. --Quuxplusone 23:13, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
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- In some versions of the Sunday strip, there is a bumper box with the title, to fill in space. It includes the accented letter. -- user:zanimum
[edit] Source material
Hi: If anyone can get his mits on Backstage at the Strips, the author of HtH provides a lot of insight into the making of his comics and the history.
[edit] Top Ten Most Sackable Cities
At the moment, there are only nine cities listed. What's the last one? Or is part of the joke that Vikings can't count?
- As I remember, the 10th is Minsk. Vanjagenije 22:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Theme Music
The section about the theme music is very suspicious to me, especially as it says you can hear it by pressing your ear against a particular stone at certain times in the lunar cycle. I'll remove the entire section, and if it's accurate, it can be put back with a source...--Tiberius47 03:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Incorrect Stub marking?
Shouldn't the stub marking be of "comic strip" ? Its showing an "antartica location" stub. I'm changing it to comic strip.
- Neelakantankk 16:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Question about wording
Shouldn't "who thinks he's dreamy" say "who thinks he's a dreamer"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andreas Toth (talk • contribs) 00:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
