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Contents 1 Axilism 2 Shaving for surgery 3 Reasons for Shaving in the Millitary 4 Use of 'piety' 5 For religious reasons - Jains 6 Removed crap 7 Page move / Name change 8 skinheads - political reasons for head shaving 9 Hairfacts

[edit] Axilism

I can't wait for someone to write the social role of hair. Tuf-Kat (PS: I'm totally serious)

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you are right to be serious. If you read french, here is what Philippe said about it

Le maillot à la brésilienne est un type de maillot de bain cher aux transsexuels de la même origine. La forme en est totalement anti-anatomique pour la pilosité féminine et exige un déboisement catastrophique. Les ravages dans les massifs buissonniers des monts de Vénus sont de plus en plus grands : une véritable catastrophe écologique. Le fier triangle qui affirmait le sexe féminin a laissé sa place à un toupet rédhibitoire du fait de sa totale absence d'évocation érotique. Entre les bords externes du toupet ridicule et les plis de l'aine, les lieux défrichés offrent le spectacle désolant de la peau d'un volatile plumé.

Voir aussi

axilisme

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This sociological approached was not judge acceptable.

I also highly recommand reading http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axilisme which is a very interesting article, over which we finally came to a difficult agreement.

[edit] Shaving for surgery

Article says "Patients' body hair was once shaved before surgery for reasons of hygiene; however, this turned out to be counter-productive".

Counter-productive how ? Jay 12:56, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

from what I understand about this issue is that the act of shaving introduces too many contaminants which is counter to the original aim of removing sources of contaminants. And I've heard anecdotal evidence that shaving an area that undergoes surgery tends to be highly irritating to the skin after the surgery is over because of the elevated sensitivity after surgery. Still, I think some hospitals still practice this, just as some hospitals clean wounds with alcohol instead of saline (the last thing you need after being hit by a car). I'm no-where near an expert though. --Qirex 09:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Could you add a source that backs up the claim that shaving is counter productive, and that hospitals are moving away from it? The claim doesn't make much sense to me. I know that animals are still shaved in veterinary medicine. The doctors shaved hair off the applicable parts of me when I had an emergency appendectomy on October 30th, 2006 at Baylor in Dallas, TX (one of the best hospitals in the state). If it is true (which I am suspect), it definitely needs to be sourced. BMan1113VR 10:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reasons for Shaving in the Millitary

Article says: "Shaving a man's scalp hair has been used as a means of stripping them of their former identity. This is sometimes done at the beginning of military training, and is done as part of a process of trying to instill a new identity into the new soldier."

It was my understanding that this was done, especially in ancient times, to prevent the enemy from grabbing your hair during combat. Also, isn't it removed today to prevent the spread of lice? --69.173.172.148

Today, the fear of someone using a soldiers hair as a handle is probably pretty minimal, now that we try to shoot enemies from as far away as possible. Also, there are better ways to prevent the spread of lice than shaving people's heads. This also wouldn't explain why women's heads aren't shaved. Don't they get lice too? I think what the article says is pretty accurate. I could be wrong, but lice isn't a big problem in the modern military. — Frecklefoot | Talk 19:26, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

--Qirex 09:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Use of 'piety'

Under the heading "For religious reasons", the article reads, "To Sikhs, the maintenance and management of long hair is a manifestation of one's piety." I feel that the word 'piety' should not be used, because it could mean 'hypocrisy', or it could mean 'reverence and devotion to god' ([1]). I'd change it myself, but I don't know which meaning the original author intended convey. --Qirex 09:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] For religious reasons - Jains

I have never heard of a prohibiton on head-shaving in the Jain religious tradition. In fact, Paul Dundas' "The Jains" specifically mentions head-shaving as part of the initiation process for Jain monks:

"The hairpulling ceremony, which occurs at this time and is not witnessed by the lay community, signifies austerity and the abandonment of sexuality. This may involve the actual removal of the hair by tearing it out in handfuls as is often described in the old literature, although there is also ancient warranty for the custom sometimes found today of the head being shaved in advance with some small tufts being left which are removed in the course of initiation." (Dundas 156-157)

I moved the internal link for Jains into the appropriate paragraph.

- David

[edit] Removed crap

I've edited the section relating to pubic hair and sexual context of removal as it contained utter crap. Check the diff. Borderline racist comments about african women, and bizarre asertions that upper class women are more likely to depilate have no place here. 84.66.205.215 16:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] skinheads - political reasons for head shaving

should the fact that some members of far right political groups choose to shave their heads as an expression of their political beliefs be included?

82.6.79.160 14:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

If it is a truly a fact, (i.e. verifiable then yes. However I don't think it is true to state that it is an expression of their political beliefs; more accurately it is a sign of identification with a group or culture. It is a subtle but important difference. Anyway, if you can prove it, by all means include it. The Crow 20:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hairfacts

Hairfacts.com is entirely relevant to the topic. The website is not-for-profit and links to studies to back up claims. Hairfacts.com deals explicitly on the topic of hair removal (which is the title of this article). 87.75.129.218 20:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Does it cover anything that the current link doesn't? — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Since it's a site I own, I will recuse myself from adding it back in, but much of this article is taken directly from my "Methods of hair removal" article on hairfacts (donated by me with permission under GFDL). The WebMD link is a very basic overview that really doesn't cover all topics. Hairfacts is the top hair removal resource online and has been for many years (Google "hair removal"). It covers about three times as many methods as the WebMD article currently cited, and each of those methods in turn has numerous subpages devoted to clinical data, regulatory information, etc. It also discusses unproven and banned methods not discussed anywhere in the WebMD article. Hairfacts is cited in published medical literature [2] and by journalists. It was removed recently in the wake of an online detractor's ongoing campaign against me for a perceived slight. That editor has been banned a few times here for vandalism and linkspamming her hair removal practice. Unfortunately, most reliable information on hair removal is in registration-only medical articles. If editors decide to add hairfacts back in, you might also consider adding this about.com link: Hair Removal Methods. I'd also note that the WebMD and About.com articles serve more ads than hairfacts. Wikipedia allows external links that serve ads, but this article is frequently targeted by those promoting their own products and services. Again, I'll leave it to others to determine consensus on this. Jokestress 15:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay. — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad to see it back on the links page. 16:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)