Talk:Heckler & Koch USP

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Contents 1 Minor Edit Comments 2 Misc Comments 3 Pic 4 Tomb Raider reference 5 In Fiction 6 Counter Strike Source

[edit] Minor Edit Comments

Edited the expert section - sight configuration was confusing. However, What is the difference between the "elongated" and "extended" slides? I have several USPs - IMHO - this should read "standard" for the regular USP, "extended" for the expert, and "elongated" for the Elite. Comments?

[edit] Misc Comments

The USP and the SOCOM were actually developed at basically the same time, and the USP was originally designed for the .40S&W cartridge-- 9mm was also developed originally, but the USP .45 was a later design.

Will dig through some of my H&K material and work on expanding this entry.

The design section looks to be a somewhat rearranged version of the article on the USP available at The Arms Site.

Is it Heckler and Koch or Heckler und Koch? --67.122.211.74 05:46, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

its Heckler&Koch (original company logo)

or, more simply, just H&K --200.68.126.238 05:08, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Has anyone else noticed that on the USP Tactical's section, it says that the weapon is incompatible iwth supressors made for the MK 23 Mod 0, while it says the opposite on the MK 23 Mod 0's page? The two articles appear to contradict each other.

[edit] Pic

Feel free to add this great pic of mine that shows the full size USP as well as the USP Compact;

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/31617383649.jpg&s=x11

If it's necessary, please credit me for taking this picture.

Haizum 01:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tomb Raider reference

USP Match pistols are used by Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider movies, not Tacticals as reported. I changed this on the article.

[edit] In Fiction

Is there a reason that the fiction section is edited down so heavily? I would agree that that it is silly to list every single appearance of the pistol in every medium, but I think it's appropriate to mention it's use in a hugely popular TV show like 24. --Askaggs 08:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

The reason is that these sections tend to get out of control, because they become "trivia magnets", i.e., every gamer and anime fan who passes by the article will have an urge to add all of his instances of the USP's appearances from his favorite video game or anime. The result is a list of indiscrimnate trivia that doesn't add anything to the article. So basically, these sections are either being edited down or removed altogether from firearms-related articles to avoid this issue. --Squalla 23:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining and I can say that I definitely prefer this format to the long list I saw in the page's history. In this particular case I think 24 is certainly as least as recognizable as the currently mentioned video games so I am adding it in, but I won't include any other references (and I do have several, I love this gun). --Askaggs 06:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

The correct place for the information that any firearm appears in a film or video game is in the article relating to the film or video game, with a link to the article for the firearm. Riddley 12:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with that and would like to add, that there are two pages created to consolodate this type of information, if users really need to add it somewhere: List of firearms in video games and List of firearms in films. --Deon Steyn 13:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The gun used by Jack Bauer in 24 is a SigPro, not a USP. Although, Vincent in Michael Mann's "Collateral" notably uses a USP. Kestrel 23:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Jack used a Sig in season 1 and 2, but since then a USP Compact has definitely been his primary weapon. Reference other sites such as Bauer Kill Count. Regardless, it has been decided not to put this information on the USP page. --Askaggs 12:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Squalla. This article needs to be about the actual firearm and nothing more. Haizum 04:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Am I the only one who finds it a little odd that someone added Jack Bauer to the list of non-fictional police agencies who actualy issue out USPs? [StarkeRealm] 10:33, March 1, 2007

Removed. —Thernlund ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 20:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Counter Strike Source

I think that this article should offer a screen shot from the popular video game, Counter Strike Source, because that is what every Counter Terrorist is issued with in the game.Defy You 03:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

This article is about the weapon, not the game. The fact that the USP appears is your favorite video game (and another endless list of others) does not add anything to article. It already mentions the common appearance of the pistol in popular culture, even with a couple examples, and that's more than enough. --Squalla 04:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)