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[edit] Derogatory Statements
There were certain POV statements of an extremely negative kind in this article. I have now fixed these, but included a section on the reaction to these hex signs by other members of the local community. Paula Hay's comments below are correct and worth taking note of in revising this article. [Dr Leo Ruickbie]
- I find no evidence to suggest Paula Hay's comments should be accepted as "correct" - there is just as much evidence that the Hex signs have absolutely nothing to do with "folk magic" at all. This article is still very heavily biased towards the neo-pagan POV. Paula Hay's comments state that she is no expert - yet we should assume her stance is correct? In the face of scholarly evidence stating otherwise?
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- Re: the occult-or-not nature of hex signs and Anabaptist objections to same, isn't it as plausible that those cultures, which are so opposed to ostentatious adornment in general, oppose them simply because of their nature as nonfunctional decorations? ("The decorative arts play little role in authentic Amish life [...] and are in fact regarded with suspicion, as a field where egotism and a display of vanity can easily develop." Wikipedia: Amish)
- Koikuri 01:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Attribution Problem
This article needs help - it feels like it was stolen from somewhere. Who is the "I" that is speaking in the last half of the article? If it's a quote, use proper citation. If it's stolen, delete it and add real wiki-worthy content.
Since this is an article about a visual object, a picture would go a long way. A reader of this article wouldn't know what a hex looks like even after reading all the way through... Mr.Logic 20:40, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Stellerj,
1) I agree with you, and I will be attempting to get some camera pictures of Hex Signs next month as I hope to travel to the Pennsylvania Dutch area known as Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, some 11 Hours from where I'm located.
2) Don't forget to sign your posts, there is an easy way on Wikipedia to do so, just hit the ampresand key, upper left keyboard ~ four times after your text paragraph. Not sure if this is what you call it but it is indeed ~ (Four times) Try it here at your convenience. Thanks,Scott 16:57, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Scott 21:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the updates & the upcoming pics! Trivia time: ~ is a Tilde. Mr.Logic 20:40, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- Congrats to you sir, Please let me know if I can help you with any wiki stuff, If I don't know, there are real people here that will! It'll be some time for hex pictures, however the most common is called the disstlefink. You can also build your user page and discuss things on your discussion page, Hopefully I'll be the first. Four curly's Tilde's to you! Thanks Scott 21:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] This article is wrong.
The term "hex" in "hex sign" does not come from "hexagram." It comes from the German "Hexe," meaning "witch," and "hexen," meaning to practice witchcraft or sorcery.
Additionally, I can't imagine ANY scholar worth his or her salt that would try to assert that hex signs originated as anything other than folk magic. The purpose of a hex sign is to "ward" (protect) the building on which they are painted or hung from evil spirits; the images and patterns used in the hex signs have specific meanings that correlate to such things as "good luck," "good fortune," "fertility," "prosperity," etc.
Pennsylvania's round barns mostly date from the early- to mid-1800s, and are similarly intended to ward evil spirits -- there are no corners for the hellish little buggers to hide in. Pennsylvania Germans are some very seriously superstitious people, even to this day.
If you have actually found someone who asserts hex signs are something other than "witch signs," a citation would be good to see, since the historical record of Pennsylvania German immigrants and their ways is rather large.
I'm not an expert on any of this, just a Pennsylvania local with some interest in local culture. It would be worth tracking down someone who actually knows about this stuff -- there are lots of historical societies and such in York and Lancaster Counties where you could find the proper information.
-Paula Hay, Centre County, PA
