Talk:History of lesbianism
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[edit] Merge?
While the material looks good, the whole unsourced viewpoint of the narrative suggests original research. It is speculated...' - who speculated? I think the specific Sappho detail would be better merged into Sappho. Tearlach 13:55, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
- I reverted this Sep 4th 2005 edit labelled "wikified further and removed tag" because it reintroduced spelling mistakes, altered headings to a non-standard form, and lost a great chunk off the end of the article, including the categories. Tearlach 10:39, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
The material on this page is full of gross errors and copyright violations. It should be eliminated if it can't be fixed by a responsible individual.Ande B. 06:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sappho
I have removed the most egregious copyright infringeing materials. There are still more unattributed copyright protected quotes in this article. This entire page is full of strong POV. It's really too much to fix with a simple edit and needs serious workovers for which I have no time or interest. Good luck. Ande B. 07:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
The following text is not supported by any cite to authority and relies entirely on assumptions and Victorian era fabrications:
Sappho was married off and eventually gave birth to a daughter. A revolution temporarily forced her into exile in Sicily; when she returned, she gathered together a group of women and girls who shared her artistic and sexual preferences
There is no evidence that indicates Sappho was forced into marriage nor any evidence that her marriage was an unhappy one, as is implied by the statement. This type of strong POV demands the support of cited relaible authority.
Sappho's exile, while not life-long, lasted for at least ten years, longer than the impression given by the word "temporary."
I don't recall any historical documentary evidence that indicates that Sappho actively "gathered" any particular group of people together. While people may tend to gravitate to those of similar interests and Sappho's high reputation may have may have attracted "fans" or "followers," this does not imply that she actively "gathered" anyone for any purpose. So little is known about the woman that the description quoted above is mere assertion.
It has been more than a few years since I happily struggled through Sappho's poetry in their original language so if anyone has more current, reliable information about the above material, please let us know your sources-- they would be quite valuable to those with strong interests in these matters. 24.7.5.47 21:07, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cry for help!
I put in a request for expert attention to this page, it really needs it. I also removed the request to merge this article with the Sappho article because it has been sitting here for months with no responses. Also, this page serves a totally different and much broader purpose than the Sappho page. Ande B 07:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I began thinking I could improve this article, but I've decided to write another for my topic, and if the two should later need to be merged, so be it, but I don't feel I can do much for the first part of this article, which is obviously pretty neglected. --Chuchunezumi 00:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Possible deletion
I am going to review and make a decision whether this article should be proposed for deletion. From what I've been able to construe, it is lifted directly from another article with little or no changes whatsoever, making it a copyright concern. While the other article might have copied from this one, I'm not sure. The article in question may be found at http://experts.about.com/e/h/hi/history_of_lesbianism.htm. I welcome discussion even before I propose its deletion, but hearing none, and if after rereading the criteria for AfDs, I may propose that this article be taken down. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 22:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, it appears that all of the content of the above website is lifted from Wikipedia, though they give no sort of credit at all. I'm still concerned with this article overall and would appreciate hearing what others think should happen. While I think this subject deserves an article, I'm not sure this one is doing the topic justice completely bereft of citation. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 23:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Also I feel as though this article should be labeled a stub, since I think it's pretty obvious that lesbianism didn't end in the Dark Ages. Chuchunezumi 23:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
