Talk:How to play the violin

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

from VfD:

Start of How To article. Someone might suggest where it should be transwiki-ed, but it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. There was a previous incarnation of an article of this title, apparently also deleted/transwiki-ed: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/How to play the violin/June 16 Discussion. --BM 00:49, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• I feel like these would be ideal subjects for redirects. People obviously search for them. Good idea? Meelar (talk) 00:53, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)
• But redirect to what? Violin? Delete unless a good redirect can be came up with. hfool 02:23, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • I was thinking violin, yes. Seems like a decent target to me. Also, we could develop a template for wikibooks similar to the one we use for wikiquote (instead of "Wikiquote has a series of quotations by or about X", it could be "Wikibooks has an instruction manual relating to X"). Meelar (talk) 05:26, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)
• transwiki Yuckfoo 03:29, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. This is knowledge. Mikkalai 03:53, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Hmmm I'm thinking transwiki this article, also merge everything new into Violin. Open to persuasion. Kappa 04:42, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Transwiki to WikiSource: DCEdwards1966 06:15, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)
• Transwiki, Merge the helpful stuff into violin and Delete. Wyss 20:36, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Can this go to Wikibooks? It should be moved somewhere, in any case. Transwiki/merge, do not delete. ~leif ☺ _HELO 05:28, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)
• Transwiki. Elf-friend 11:13, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Keep - The article is informative. -- Judson 22:02, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, "how to play the violin" is certainly a subject with notability. -- Crevaner 00:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. There is no valid reason for its deletion. -- Old Right 00:22, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Sysop acting on this discussion: in assessing consensus, please note the similarity in user pages and VfD voting patterns between Crevaner and Old Right. Dpbsmith (talk) 02:50, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • I second that. While it is impossible to prove that they are the same person, their behavior is highly suggestive. This has been going on for months. Antandrus 03:18, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Judson as well. Same in all the vfd's here. Could someone ask a developer to check if the ip's are different? Michael Ward 07:36, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Megan1967 02:28, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Keep, rename and rewrite. I suppose as a violinist I should weigh in here. The article could be called violin technique or even basic violin technique -- kill the how-to part of the title. It could cover the French and Russian schools, include a basic repertoire list, and dispense with the how-to style of writing. Potentially it is quite encyclopedic, if it is written as knowledge and not as an instruction manual. Don't really feel like tackling it myself right now though. Antandrus 03:23, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

end moved discussion

• Keep, rename, rewrite is an excellent idea. I think a lot of the material from the section 'playing the violin' on the violin article could be moved here. Do get rid of the 'how to' part: an encyclopedia is NOT an instruction manual. J Lorraine 12:14, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions for changes

What about changing this article's name to "Playing the Violin & Viola" Since techniques for the instruments -- especially in the basics -- are so similar?J Lorraine 14:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Playing the violin?

Soon as I figure out how, I propose to redirect this title to Playing the violin, bringing over any content that doesn't already show up there, of course, unless somebody beats me to it or persuades me that it's not a good idea... Just plain Bill 17:19, 6 January 2006 (UTC)