User talk:Ibn Battuta

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Hello, Ibn Battuta, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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1 DYK
2 Moving pages
3 Maps
4 Wikipedia as a Source
5 hello...
6 Sailiong Harness
7 My image
8 Tunnel or underpass in NYC
9 images of the MIT
10 Self closing HTML tags

[edit] DYK

On 30 September 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Marcelo Piñeyro, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

[edit] Moving pages

Hi Ibn Battuta (that sounds funny considering he died 7 centuries ago :-). Please read the procedure outlined at WP:MOVE for moving a page, instead of cutting and pasting the page contents. —Mets501 (talk) 18:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. As I said, yes, I know now that I should've started that whole thing differently, but I didn't know that (i.e. that it's possible to move pages) when I started out... and now I'm simply trying to cover up my own mess as best as I (or a helpful administrator) can. From what I see, the best way to go from here would be to move the old page over the newly created one. That, however, would in fact require administrator rights. If you think another step should be taken, I'll be happy to hear it. At any rate: Thanks for your help!! --still-alive-and-kicking Ibn Battuta 19:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC) ... - PS: You're a professional violinist and a high school student? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Just curious... --Ibn Battuta 20:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Great! It's all fixed now, I was just letting you know for the future. And professional just means getting paid to do something, and yes, I get paid to perform the violin and am a high school student :-) —Mets501 (talk) 21:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maps

Others may have already asked you (sorry, I didn't check each of your discussions), but then let me be another one who asks you: Do you still have the original that you've used for several race and circumnavigation maps? I'm looking for a map to show how much further south Cape Horn is compared to Cape of Good Hope, South East Cape and South West Cape, possibly even including the "Roaring Fourties" & "Roaring Fifties". The maps that I've found already sported some information that didn't belong into my article (Cape-Horners), and in addition that information was in English (the article isn't)... but apart from that I haven't found anything as nice-looking and/or well-fit. So I'm wondering if you might still have the original--or even a version including the Fourties & Fifties and the Capes (be it in English :o))? Thanks in advance, and great work! --Ibn Battuta 01:10, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

You'll find the source for the global route maps on Commons: Commons:Image:Sailing routes map - Gimp source.xcf. Various other maps were produced using GMT. Cheers, — Johan the Ghost _seance 18:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Which file format is that/ which program do you use to edit it? Thanks! --Ibn Battuta 00:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

That's The Gimp. — Johan the Ghost _seance 11:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Great, I can open it now! (And yes, I've figured out by now that this is leading me ways beyond my non-existing computer abilities ;o)) Anyway, the map we're talking about (Commons:Image:Sailing routes map - Gimp source.xcf) seems to contain already quite a number of marks, labels, etc. Do you happen to have a more "basic" map (so I wouldn't have to undo all the prior edits), or am I just not understanding some of the tools that the Gimp offers? Thanks, and sorry about my clueless questions. --Ibn Battuta 22:19, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's a multi-layer image -- this is how we use a "basic" image to make multiple product images. So you're going to have to be familiar with how layers work to manage it. For example, to turn off the parts you don't want, just turn off those layers. You'll find some good tutorials at the Gimp web site. — Johan the Ghost _seance 10:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like it's interesting enough to figure it out one day when I have more time... Thanks for your help, and thanks for getting me interested!! --Ibn Battuta 03:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia as a Source

cited from J Milburn's discussion page:
== Referencing other Wikipedias ==
Hi J Milburn, I happened to see that you mentioned to another user that other Wikipedias are not valid sources for the English Wikipedia. I'd love to hear more as this rule seems to be diametrically opposed to other Wikipedias' rules (for example the German Wikipedia). Is there something I could read up to find out when it is and when it is not allowed to source another Wikipedia? BTW, how about articles that are just plainly drawing from other Wikipedia articles? Wouldn't it rather violate the GNU license not to mention that such articles are actually using other people's work? Curious to find out more. --Ibn Battuta 00:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
end of quotation from J Milburn's page.

In response to your question about citing other Wikipedia articles as a source, Wikipedia:Sources, under the heading of 'Why sources should be cited', says 'Note: Wikipedia articles may not be cited as sources.' I have also read it elsewhere, but I do not know where. As for the GNU Free Documentation liscence, I honestly don't know, but I was under the impression that the information and text could be freely copied, as it is by sites such as answers.com. However, I may be wrong there. I have seen other articles with text copied directly from an open source Encyclopedia, I can't remember what it was, and it had a tag at the bottom saying that it was from the encyclopedia. Perhaps there is something like that available? As I say, I do not know, I am no expert in copyright law! Do tell me if you find any of what I have said to be wrong, or I have misunderstood something. J Milburn 18:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply! Good to know that Wikipedia shouldn't be used as a source... (though I sort of wonder why--i.e. as long as the cited article makes a compelling case and gives references itself... after all, citing other encyclopedias is not a problem. But well...) As for the copyright, no, you may certainly not just copy (and publish) Wikipedia, neither for verbatim copies nor for derivative work; there are few, but important requirements, see here. Thanks again. --Ibn Battuta 01:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hello...

I think I can help you with the descriptions ,and with the translation of the article ja:海王丸.for the article translation please give me a week a so ,as I'm loaded with school work these days and hardly have any time to do other stuff.But the picture descriptions can be done ASAP since they wont eat much time. I had a look at the pictures and they just only the name and the a place name only.

2kaioumaru21.JPG .. name of the ship: Kaiomaru 2 name of the dockyard : メリケンパーク中突堤にて, Meriken Park nakatottei. actually tottei,突堤　means jetty,dock or pier.

ja:画像:Nihonmaru_1.jpg description: This is the picture of Nipponmaru at the maritime museum at Minato mirai 21, Yokohama. Picture was taken in 2004.6.27 by the user Glean.

P:s; Both these names are not correct.First, it should be kaiomaru2 instead of 2kaiomaru.Also image name nihonmaru should be Nipponmaru as Ancient japanese always used term "Nipponmaru".

hope this will help you.Let me know if you need any further help in Japanese related articles --Iwazaki 14:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sailiong Harness

Sorry, I've been away from Wikipedia for awhile. Generally we call the safety device a "harness" or "suspenders", but more commonly the former. Please look at the link below for some descriptions of products at West Marine a large chain chandlery in the US.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SiteSearchView?catalogId=10001&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&keyword=harness&Ntt=harness&N=0&y=13&x=15&storeId=10001&Ntk=All_2&ddkey=SiteSearch —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kevin Murray (talk • contribs) 22:56, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] My image

Feel free to upload it yourself, so long as your source me properly. :p Staxringold _talk^contribs 05:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tunnel or underpass in NYC

Hi ChrisRuvolo, I'm currently trying to identify which tunnel or underpass in New York City this is. Is that the Franklin D. Roosevelt East River Drive? (Sorry, I've no idea, I'm just trying to nail down a description of the United Nations Plaza, NYC...) Or in case you don't know that exit, could you recommend any other user for that question? Thanks a lot in advance, Ibn Battuta 20:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, that is a portion of the FDR Drive. I'm not sure if the tunnel/underpass section is named. It is more like a half-tunnel. When you drive through it, you can see out to the East River. Hope this helps. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! --Ibn Battuta 01:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

This caught my eye on my watchlist, and if I can tell from the picture, it's the covered portion of First Avenue (Manhattan) in front of the United Nations called the First Avenue Underpass that runs from 42nd to 47th Streets. The cars turning right in the picture are turning on to the 48th Street ramp to the Northbound FDR Drive. Alansohn 00:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okay. You are looking on the west side of the UN plaza. I was looking on the east side, sorry. The Google aerial map doesn't show the entrance at 42nd St. (blocked by a building), but Microsoft Local shows it: [1] --ChrisRuvolo (t) 05:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, both of you! And thanks as well for introducing me to Microsoft Local--pretty interesting! --Ibn Battuta 11:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] images of the MIT

Hi Daderot, I've come across your pictures of the MIT and would like to upload them to the Commons to make them available for other Wikipedias. (Otherwise they're not.) I just thought I'd ask before if you want to do that yourself. Any preferences? --Ibn Battuta 01:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd be delighted if you did it! And a tip of the hat to your great namesake, Ibn Battuta. Daderot 12:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Self closing HTML tags

Hi, thanks for your question. Basically, tags that don't have pairs - like <p> and </p> for defining paragraphs - are known as self-closing tags. They are self-closed by placing a slash before the closing chevron - like <br/>. With paired tags, the slash sits in front of the opening chevron in the closing (second) tag. This is part of the more recent HTML standards that website designers like me have to know about! If you want to know more, there is a good explanation at W3schools.com. Every website tells a user's browser which HTML standard is being used, and it interprets it accordingly. It's not essential to use the correct tags for a given standard, because modern browsers have pretty good fault tolerance, but it helps. The self-closing tags weren't used in older standards, so browsers can still recognise them. Regards, Adrian M. H. 16:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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