Talk:Ice hockey at the 2006 Winter Olympics

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Contents 1 Women's portion 2 Second paragraph 3 GIF 4 officials 5 times 6 box scores 7 update 8 GP G A Pts PIM Mins GA GAA SV% 9 rules 10 Goalies 11 Bracket 12 Table of Contents 13 Sweden ahead of Finland before 1998? 14 Officiating Can / Sui 15 Result table 15.1 Group A Preliminary round 15.2 Group A Preliminary round summary 15.2.1 How about this? 15.3 Group B Preliminary round summary 16 A little confused? 17 Men's competition 18 women's Sweden vs Canada 19 Leading goaltenders 20 Consolation round? 21 Swedish cheating 22 Trivia

[edit] Women's portion

The women's portion and half of the men's final information was completely missing (as of 7pm Feb 28) so I added it back from an older version.

[edit] Second paragraph

"The 2006 competition marks the first time that neither Canada nor the United States finished second in a major International Women's Ice Hockey tournament. This is the first major change in the status of the top four women's teams since the competition at the 1998 Winter Olympics, when the US team established itself as a power on par with Canada, and Finland established itself as being on par with Sweden."

I don't understand what this paragraph is talking about, nor why it is at the top of the page. The tournament is not even over yet. Why claim that Canada will not finish in second place? Maybe it is just poorly written.

[edit] GIF

I feel like the motion gif of the italian women's team flailing about seems out of place. The gif itself is pretty short, and to me, doesn't add anything.

I agree, it is rather deprecating towards the Italian team, I say axe it. mhunter 01:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] officials

I think on this page perhaps should be included the on-ice officals for mens ice hockey, who were recently named: Paul Devorski, Dennis LaRue, Dan Marouelli, Don Van Massenhoven from the NHL and Thomas Andersson, Vyacheslav Bulanov, Timo Favorin, Danny Kurmann, Christer Larking and Vladimir Sindler from the IIHF. SD6-Agent 02:31, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] times

What about the times, I don't see which system they are in. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to be able to watch the game live. Tawker 01:48, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Local Turin time, which is CET. Subtract nine hours, I think, if you're in British Columbia. So I hope you like getting up in the morning. -- Jao 19:50, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I thought that all wikipedia articles should use Coordinated Universal Time? Anarchist42 22:33, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Nope. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Time zones. -- Jao 19:07, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] box scores

Are we really going to put the name of every athlete who scored a point in the Olympics on the page? The page will get cluttered real fast, and it's just a huge mess. Just my two cents, though. -- Jjjsixsix ^(talk)/_(contribs) @ 06:10, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

My two cents concur. Wouldn't that be what Ice hockey at the 2006 Winter Olympics match stats (men) and Ice hockey at the 2006 Winter Olympics match stats (women), linked from the top box, are for? -- Jao 13:10, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] update

we really need somebody to make the women's canada russia match like the canada italy one including the times and scorers. thanks somody 19:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GP G A Pts PIM Mins GA GAA SV%

The "Leading scorers" and "Leading goaltenders" tables are probably informative, but the table headers aren't in English :-(

• It's in Hockey English -
  • Games Played
  • Goals
  • Assists
  • Points
  • Penalties in Minutes
  • Minutes Played
  • Goals Against
  • Goals Against Average (average goals scored on goalie per game)
  • Save Percentage (percentage of shots on goal stopped by goalie)

[edit] rules

hi, im doing a school project, and am looking for information on the rules for the olympic Ice hockey games. Are they playing NHL rules or what? -- TheOneCalledA1 18:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

No, they use IIHF rules. ccwaters 18:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Goalies

Why is the goalie stats reduced to top 4? There are only 16 goalies for the Women's side, so a complete list isn't all that large. 132.205.45.110 21:59, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bracket

Hey guys, what do you think of this:

					Semi finals				Final
					17 February				20 February
	A		2nd		Sweden	3
	B		1st		United States	2
									Sweden
	B		2nd		Finland
	A		1st		Canada
									Bronze medal match

I modified the template from one on Football World Cup 2006. I'm still messing around with it. If people think it would be nice to have something like this, I can put it into template space and make some more for various levels of starting brackets (i.e., starting with quarterfinals for men). Let me know if you want something like this, and if you have any suggestions to the specific format. Thanks! -- Jonel | Speak 22:19, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks great to me! Good idea. --x-Flare-x 23:23, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

• It needs to add the Bronze medal match. 69.156.69.205 21:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

  I've added it. -- Jonel | Speak 02:20, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Table of Contents

There's a lot of editing going on right now but can someone add some headings to this article to create a Table of Contents? It's very long and it's annoying to have to scroll through looking for results. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 04:17, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sweden ahead of Finland before 1998?

"This is the first major change in the status of the top four women's teams since the competition at the 1998 Winter Olympics in Nagano, when the US team established itself as a power on par with Canada, and Finland established itself as being on par with Sweden."

Considering the fact that Sweden to that point hadn't won a single medal at neither the World Championships nor the Olympics and Finland had taken the bronze medal at every World's that had taken place, it sounds strange to claim that Finland didn't reach Sweden's level until 1998.

[edit] Officiating Can / Sui

Can anyone make a (non biased) comment regarding (what I believe to be) clear incompetence by the ref on

• The calls that lead to the 2-0 SUI goal (4 very weak penalties vs Canada)
• The disllowed goal (the one with the puck in the glove that was (bias) clearly over the goal line which video replays showed however the intellegent person who put the overhead cameras couldn't position properly to give an additional angle (/bias)

That is very biased, if anyone can make a non-biased comment, I think it would be something to note. Tawker 16:21, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

If the officials can't see the puck in its entirety having crossed the goal line, then it's no goal. --Madchester 18:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Result table

What do you think about a table like this? You can put all this additional information which overcrowds current article into subpages.

[edit] Group A Preliminary round

Team	Finland	Canada	Czech Republic	Switzerland	Germany	Italy
Finland		4:2	0:0	1:1	3:3	2:1
Canada
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Germany
Italy

(Igny 16:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC))

Looks good. Might center the scores (and why are they wikilinked?). Most of the stuff on the main page right now could then be moved onto the "match stats" page. -- 128.197.249.61 17:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

It occurs to me we can be a bit more concise by combining the above table with the round robin w/l/t table. How about:

[edit] Group A Preliminary round summary

Team	Scores						Played	Wins	Losses	Ties	GF	GA	Points
	Finland	Switzerland	Canada	Czech Republic	Germany	Italy
Finland	\	5-0	2-0	4-2	2-0	6-0	5	5	0	0	19	2	10
Switzerland	0-5	\	2-0	3-2	2-2	3-3	5	2	1	2	10	12	6
Canada	0-2	0-2	\	3-2	5-1	7-2	5	3	2	0	15	9	6
Czech Republic	2-4	2-3	2-3	\	4-1	4-1	5	2	3	0	14	12	4
Germany	0-2	2-2	1-5	1-4	\	3-3	5	0	3	2	7	16	2
Italy	0-6	3-3	2-7	1-4	3-3	\	5	0	3	2	9	23	2

[edit] How about this?

Team	Scores						Played	Wins	Losses	Ties	GF	GA	Points
	FIN	SUI	CAN	CZE	GER	ITA
Finland	\	5-0	2-0	4-2	2-0	6-0	5	5	0	0	19	2	10
Switzerland	0-5	\	2-0	3-2	2-2	3-3	5	2	1	2	10	12	6
Canada	0-2	0-2	\	3-2	5-1	7-2	5	3	2	0	15	9	6
Czech Republic	2-4	2-3	2-3	\	4-1	4-1	5	2	3	0	14	12	4
Germany	0-2	2-2	1-5	1-4	\	3-3	5	0	3	2	7	16	2
Italy	0-6	3-3	2-7	1-4	3-3	\	5	0	3	2	9	23	2

Centered the numbers, made top row IOC country codes to make the table more compact (it's still easy to tell the meaning of the code just by looking in the left-hand column). -- Jonel | Speak 20:56, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Group B Preliminary round summary

Team	Scores						Played	Wins	Losses	Ties	GF	GA	Points
	Slovakia	Russia	Sweden	USA	Kazakhstan	Latvia
Slovakia
Russia
Sweden
USA
Kazakhstan
Latvia

Mre5765 05:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A little confused?

I have no idea what in the world that second paragraph meant? Considering Canada could end up in second (Well, not really but thats my POV...) I removed it. If someone figures out what it was trying to say go ahead and re-write it.

CanadianPhaedrus 17:28, 19 February 2006 (UTC)CanadianPhaedrus

[edit] Men's competition

The first sentence says "..format was changed from the much-maligned version...". Much maligned by who? Its POV as is and as far as the reader knows could be the opion of the editors of the page. It needs to either be removed or some references to the large number of offical groups that didn't like it or it needs to say that certain fans did not like the set up. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 17:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Looks better now. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Why is Canada placed 3rd in group A when they have more wins than Switzerland? Anarchist42 19:00, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Tiebreaker is head to head. John wesley 18:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Now what does head to head mean? Anarchist42 19:00, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

The Swiss team beat the Canadian team. ccwaters 19:06, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] women's Sweden vs Canada

the women's sweden vs. canada game has the score listed as 8-1, but i count 10 goals for canada? something is amiss.. 131.111.8.99 22:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Something certainly was amiss. 8-1 is correct, not sure what happened with the extra listings. Also, it is somewhat hard for both teams to score at exactly the same time... I've fixed the game's scoring legend to be in line with the official results. -- Jonel | Speak 00:24, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leading goaltenders

Dominik Hašek played only about 10 minutes i first match.

[edit] Consolation round?

Is there a consolation round in the men's tournament to determine classification of teams? CrazyC83 16:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Nope: http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/IH/X05.html ccwaters 16:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish cheating

What about them throwing the last game in the first round to get in position to play the Swiss? The virtue of the old round robin system of play in the medal round was that all games counted, the games in the first round were carried over! John wesley 14:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Please provide credible source. -- Jonel | Speak 01:47, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The NBC broadcast on the last night of the first round. The announcers were all saying that Sweden wanted to lose so they can be in 3rd place. Someone must have Tivo. Didn't you watch all the games? John wesley 13:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

NBC announcers cannot credibly speak to the intentions of the Swedish ice hockey team. -- Jonel | Speak 01:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The Swedish coach Bengt-Ake Gustafsson said things prior to the game which could be interpreted as if Sweden would do exactly this. It was much quoted in Swedish news media. John Anderson 16:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Can you give any serious reference to possible disqualifications by the IOC and/or IIHF? I can't find a thing. If there is a real possiblity, then sure the mention is warranted, but otherwise it is just speculatory and should be removed. ccwaters 17:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Quotes from Gustafsson in news media would be credible. -- Jonel | Speak 19:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Even if this were true, it would not be cheating. It might be considered poor sportsmanship, but frankly it's up to the team to decide how hard they wanted to play. Maybe they were simply trying not to tire themselves out in preparation for the medal rounds. DJ Clayworth 19:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed (though either way, I'd say it's worth a one-sentence mention if verifiable). -- Jonel | Speak 19:32, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll ask again: Are there any sources citing a statement about possible disqualification from the IOC and/or IIHF. A) Gustafsson apparently admitted to throwing a game. That's great, but B) I don't see any mention of possible action taken against the team for it. I know the IOC is after them for breaking sponsorship rules, but that's something completely different. If I don't see a sources for A or B this weekend, it will being removed. ccwaters 13:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

I moved a portion of the text to the trivia section. It doesn't deserve to be at the beginning of the article. 213.67.244.185 13:18, 22 January 2007

Someone erased this information, but I put it back now. I think it is relevant to have this information in the article and I also find it nice that the article consists of more than just statistics. John Anderson 12:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)