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1 Documentation
2 Discussion

[edit] Documentation

{{indefblockeduser}}

This user has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia.
(see: block log • contributions • page moves • current autoblocks)

This template alerts users that the given user is blocked, and provides links to relevant logs. Please do not substitute this template; since the categories have been deleted, doing so orphans the page. Orphaned pages cannot be maintained by bots or deleted at a later date. This leads to a situation in which thousands of pages are forever indexed by search engines but lost to Wikipedia itself, which presents a significant risk of malicious indexing.

[edit] Discussion

[edit] Reason

I reckon it should be standard practice to note the reason for any indefinite banning. I don't think this is excessive instruction creep: it is not always easy to locate where any relevant ruling might have been made, and the relevant page should be to hand when noting the ban in any case. See my change here for an example. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 13:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that most of the old templates (WoW, WiC, etc) be redirected instead to "vandalism only account" but that's been noxiously redirected to THIS template! That's annoying! 68.39.174.238 00:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The reason for the block is best specified in the block reason field of the block form, easily accessible through the 'block log' link provided by this template. // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 01:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stop hand or X sign?

Which design looks better: The stop hand or the X sign? IMO, the stop hand seems better since the X sign seems too harsh while the stop hand seems gentler. --TML1988 23:27, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User namespace#"Block" messages - which icon?. The battle between the Hand and the X has been going for a while, and the current consensus there is that the "X" is used in severe situations such as long term/permanent bans. --LBMixPro ^<Sp ^e ^ak|on|it!> 02:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page or user page?

Is this template meant to go on the talk page or the user page? Does it matter? The blocked user category seems to show a majority for user page, but also a substantial number for talk page. Henry ^Flower 19:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

If there is discussion relevant to the block on the talk page, it should be placed there. Otherwise, it doesn't matter as long as it's not on both simultaneously. // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 01:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unsubsted

The template adds all insertions of the template to the category Category:Unsubsted_Indefblockeduser_templates regardless of whether or not you substitute the template. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 13:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Can we remove this "feature"? It doesn't seem to work all of the time and it's actually just really unnecessary. PyWikipediaBot already has a filter to only get transcluded templates, so this category is unnecessary anyway. --Cyde↔Weys 00:47, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to the template

I think the template is a bit confusing to people who are asked by the blocked user why was he blocked (common IRC stuff).

So I propose two changes:

Documentation link. I modified the template to include it. If there's an Arbcom case, link it. If not, at least link the talk page.
There is no such thing as "ruling of administrators", so the template sounds kinda like it's some big Arbcom case even when it's not. I think Arbcom cases should be clearly separated from blocking of accounts used for common vandalism. Well now at least the link is going to point to the explanation, but it would be nice if the template was split into two cases. Well, I'm not going to do that, because I'm not the one who uses the template. If you agree, please make it more clear. Taw 01:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I added to that so that if {{{1}}} is unspecified, the talk page will be automatically referred to. G.H e 03:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Would this make it look less ugly?

—Whomp [T] [C] 23:01, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed the automatic link to the talk page.

There is not always anything to link to, e.g. in the case of obvious sockpuppets.
A reasoning for the block should be found in the block log, which is already linked. After that it should be perfectly obvious to anyone to look at the talk page and the user's contributions. If there is something like an Arbcom case that needs to be linked to, that should be linked in the block log, or on the talk page.
If you look at the block log, the talk page and the contributions, and you still don't understand why an admin has blocked someone, ask him!

We don't need to bend over backwards in fear that we might not be spoonfeeding enough information about our decisions. The vast majority of indef blocks are simple indisputable matters. For the rest, you will always find a surfeit of discussion and evidence without needing to look too far at all. In the end, the superfluous link just violates the KISS principle of design. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 08:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Substing

Is there any need to subst this template?? I think it was better when it wasn't. --TheM62Manchester 22:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bypassing redirect / ParserFunctions

Please bypass redirect from WP:SUBST to Wikipedia:Template substitution. The template doesn't use m:ParserFunctions anymore, so please remove the category from the template page. -- ADNghiem501 20:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Done, thanks. JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "don't subst"

Please put the "don't susbt" part in noinclude or move it into the messagebox. It looks ugly when it it a the top of the template. 72.139.119.165 20:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Done. It may be reverted, though. JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:11, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wierd category?

Why does this categorise into Category:Temporary Wikipedian userpages? In what way are they temporary? I'd suggest ditching the categorisation altogether. I can't think of any purpose served by it that is not automatically duplicated by Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Indefblockeduser. -Splash - tk 22:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Indefinitely blocked userpages are deleted after roughly a month, as the category description explains, except for sockpuppets and banned users. The category allows administrators assisted by scripts to easily find such pages, without false positives such as Wikipedia:Template messages/User namespace. —[admin] Pathoschild 01:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I see. Thank you. -Splash - tk 19:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. —[admin] Pathoschild 20:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More

Shouldn't the template start with "You" instead of "This user"? And could you please bring back "per ruling of administrators, Jimbo Wales and/or the Arbitration Committee"?

No. The template shows for everyone who visits the user page. It is primarily intended and most useful for other users visiting the user page, not the user himself. —Centrx→talk • 16:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other versions

This user has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia!
(see: block log • contributions • page moves • current autoblocks)

This user has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia, per ruling of administrators, Jimbo Wales and/or the Arbitration Committee.
(see: block log • contributions • page moves • current autoblocks)

This user has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia.
(see: block log • contributions • page moves • current autoblocks)

This user, Indefblockeduser, has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia.
(see: block log • contributions • page moves • current autoblocks)

[edit] Suggestion

Hi, I've heard many people say that they do not like the X Image used on this template as it hurts there eyes, I don't mind it personally but I have come across this image will I'll display at the end of the message and I though it looked better as it looks better in the colour and display, so I thought I could suggest using this picture instead of the image currently displayed.

Telly addict 16:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Can someone replace this image with the new SVG version, please? Image:Stop x nuvola.svg Cheers, Stannered 17:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} done. CMummert · talk 18:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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