User talk:Jleybov

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There are indications that the Wikiversity project might actually be lanched this year. I think an organized effort to promote improved citing of sources should be an important part of Wikiversity. I think it would be constructive to integrate Wikicite into Wikiversity. I'm not a great fan of splitting off every useful idea into a new sister project. --JWSchmidt 21:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikicite prototype in a few months <-- Very exciting! I really like the idea of a system that would let wiki users mark-up wiki pages to show where citations are needed and where other problems exist. In the context of Wikiversity and using the wiki interface as a learning tool, it would be useful to have a way for students to just point-and-click in order to mark spots on wiki pages where they get confused and need help. I wonder if you ever saw Wiki Science:Semantic prosthetic. --JWSchmidt 23:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Implementing Wikicite on Wikipedia?

Hi,

User:Taxman mentioned to me the m:Wikicite project that you have been valiantly pursuing. It looks to be excellent, thanks for all of your hard work on that! I'm coordinating a discussion on validation at Wikimania, as I explained in my outline, and I'm trying to sound out the opinions of those people interested in such topics. I would like to be able to introduce Wikicite as part of the discussion, as something a review team would be able to use to validate an article. Could you let me know the status of the software? If things are beginning to look ready, perhaps we could talk on the phone before Friday, if that's OK with you? You can contact me by email if you wish (I'm away from home, without a cellphone). If you're going to Wikimania, that would be better still! I should get a chance to ask Paul Kobasa from World Book in detail how they handle this activity (he's the co-organizer). You can see his abstract linked from my outline.

I'm hoping that we can begin to start things moving on this issue. I think at Wikimania we might get the necessary critical mass of important/talented people together to come up with a good plan and then agree who does what. Through work at Wikipedia 1.0, I've seen that we can link up the WikiProjects and get them to produce valuable metadata (almost 30,000 article assessments in less than three months!). I think those same projects could set up review teams that could use your software to produce thoroughly checked articles. Do you think this could work? Thanks, Walkerma 03:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply! After the Wikimania discussion I set up a page called Wikipedia:Pushing to validation. Could you take a look over that? It summarises the viewpoint I found garnered most acceptance in many one-on-one discussions. I had a long talk with Kurt from the German Wikipedia, and it seems they are unfamiliar with m:Wikicite. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the idea of allowing readers of articles to say, "Where did they get that fact?" We envisaged a link or comment balloon in the validated version that would allow the reader to see "On 4 Oct 2008 User:Joe checked this fact in the Journal of Useless Facts, Vol 524, p1234." Cheers, Walkerma 07:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

If you haven't seen it yet, you should look at several threads on here, Wikicat came up several times. You should comment there if you see this soon, before the thread dies completely, and also contact the people who plan to work on things. Today Francis Tyers said "When anybody says we "have to" introduce completely new markup or we "have to" wait for Wikidata to be implemented, then I know it's just an excuse for doing nothing" and then he/she offered to develop a system of his/her own. Please let us know where things are! Thanks, and keep up the good work, Walkerma 21:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Static content

Thanks for raising the issue of static content and validation at the meeting; sorry I had left, I had assumed we weren't going to get that far in the agenda, and I had originally assumed the meeting would be two hours max. Unfortunately I get little time with my family as it is, I can't just shut them out for 4 hours on our main family day! We need someone with an eye on the agenda and a firm hand, but I think that's very hard when you get Wikipedians together on IRC! We are having another meeting with Sj at 20:00 UTC this coming Sunday to discuss just static content, please join us at #wikipedia-static if you are interested. I will post things soon on meta and at Wikipedia_talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team. Thanks, Walkerma 03:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oscar photographer

Hi Jleybov, do you know if your friend is still interested? I've had no response otherwise, I think people are skeptical of how legit my offer is. I'd love to see samples, and likely approve him. -- Zanimum 22:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)