Talk:John Duddy
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This guy is something else. He can take a shot and land a harder shot. He also is a quick learner. Pernell Whitacker critiqued Duddy's posture in the ring (during one Friday Night Fights where Whitacker was the guest announcer).... In Duddy's next fight he already addressed the issue, he was no longer standing completely straight. --jorgekluney
I've been hooked on him since his fight with Lenord Pierre on ESPN2. He's got incredible hand speed, and really knows how to box.
Capmaster 04:23, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Does anybody else think the most recent additions from 69.119.160.58 sound a little too much like they were ripped straight from a newspaper/sportswriter article? There's some good stuff in there, but it needs a lot of work (the last few paragraphs at least).
Capmaster 04:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree, the article needs to be formated Vintagekits
He seems to get a good underground following lately. He helped sell tickets in the Garden in the Cotto-Malignaggi undercard. Maya Levy 03:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Cleanup
I cleaned this article up a bit, but we still need more, and it needs to cite its sources better. Pauric 22:53, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree Pauric, and thanks for that, really appriciated.
Also with regards Duddy's nationality. This should be Irish not Northern Irish. He was born in Northern Ireland but has adopted an Irish (Eire) passport and Irish citizenship therefore his birth place in Northern Ireland but his nationality is Irish.
regards
- Grand, no problem with that myself, just the flag was the NI one, so I thought might as well change it. I'd also be careful about some of the wording relating to his nationality. Before I edited it, it said he was from the occupied counties. I have no problem with that myself, it's in fact how I refer to the north, but it's not really suitable to retain NPOV on wikipedia.
- Pauric 16:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm wouldnt disagree with you on that either Vintagekits
Wow, looks like you guys have really made some progress here. I moved the part about his current rankings and title(s) to the top, because I thought it fit in more with the main description than in the trivia section. Also, I attempted to cite a source for the WBA ranking, but I wasn't sure exactly how to make it show up with both the number and at the bottom. If someone else knows how to do that it would be great. It would be nice if we could go to this style of citing for the rest of the article too, since it seems like most of the more professional articles do it this way. I think it would be cool if under the fights section, we could have little recaps of each of the fights with nice formatting and everything. You can usually find pretty good summaries under Google news. They shouldn't be too hard to paraphrase. I also noticed that John is ranked in other organizations (5th in the WBO!), so I thought it might be good to include these rankings in the box under the picture. This would make them more central, and easier to update each month when the new rankings are released.
Capmaster 05:42, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Derry/Londonderry
The recent changes here are ridiculous, can we not start getting into a points scoring exercise please?! He was born in Derry city, lets leave it at that. You willl never see an article saying boxer was born in Belfast, County Antrim or Manchester, County Lancashire. When it reads Derry, Nothern Ireland there is no doubt where he's born Dodge 13:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I wasnt trying to point score - the only point I was making was is that Belfast isnt in County Belfast etc but Derry is in County Derry so I was just making the distinction between the two. Vintagekits 10:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- wasn't aimed at you Vintagekits, but there was a lot of unneccessary edits made. I think it looks grand now, is 100% perfect factually and should be left alone Dodge 11:00, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
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- fair enough, I'll leave it but still think it should be Derry City Vintagekits 12:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well Derry City is a disamb page that directs to Derry, so thats why it was changed. Dodge 18:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- fair enough, I'll leave it but still think it should be Derry City Vintagekits 12:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Picture
Does anybody else know why the picture was removed? The person who removed it is an "administrator", but he just came in here, stripped us of our only picture, and left the rather vague comment "an image with a fair use tag which is patently unrelated to the content of the image. (CSD I7)." Does anybody know what this means? As far as I know, this image wasn't violating any rules or anything. The problem seems to be that there wasn't a good tag on the image, but if I recall correctly, there was a perfectly good tag. Anyone know anything else? I think a picture is pretty much essential for this page to not suck.
Capmaster 03:27, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I just e-mailed Irish Ropes asking for a picture of John that we could post on this page. Hopefully they will respond!
Capmaster 05:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- I know the guys at Irish-boxing.com and some at Camp Duddy/Irish Ropes so I've added one of his promo shots - so I've sorted it Vintagekits 21:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks Vintagekits. I think the page looks a lot better with that picture. Hopefully nobody else will come along and try to remove it! Capmaster 03:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Disambiguation Page
Does anybody else think it would be safe to have the disambiguation page automatically direct to John Duddy (boxer)? I think that 95% of people who are going to be looking for "John Duddy" will probably be looking for this one, not the one involved in "The Massacre of Braybrook Street". This is amplified by the fact that the other John Duddy doesn't even have his own page, but rather just his name mentioned on the "Massacre of Braybrook Street" page. Tell me what you think.
Capmaster 05:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with you Capmaster Vintagekits 15:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
OK, I just set the John Duddy page up to automatically redirect to John Duddy (boxer). I think I'll post something in the Massacre of Braybrook Street discussion informing them of this. Capmaster 21:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- good man Vintagekits 21:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know how to put the disambiguation page back to the way it was (that is, automatically redirecting to John Duddy (boxer))? Someone seems to have taken away the auto-redirect, but when I reverted his edit, it stayed the way it was. If this person would leave a reason as to why the page should no longer auto-redirect, that might be fine, but as it is, we've made a pretty strong case (which can be found here) for the automatic redirection. If someone could figure out how to get the page to automatically redirect to this page, that would be great. Capmaster 03:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ratings Box
I added a ratings box so that it's easier to correct the ratings when they change. If you guys don't like the box, feel free to remove it/revert it. Somehow it doesn't seem on the right spot on the page, but I'll leave that for you guys to decide where to put it. Also if you think of some more organizations to put in there, feel free to add them, or if you don't think some of them belong, go ahead and remove them. Capmaster 22:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- I like, I like - its a keeper, nice and clear and as you say easy to edit/add to in future Vintagekits 13:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] He is gorgeous
John Duddy is a gorgeous. Nice body and definitely a good boxer. I didn't realise a lot of Irish guys are hot like him. It'll be great to see him face to face and chat with him. Pretend you didn't hear that - my boyfriend will be jealous if he hears that. ;-) --211.24.155.43 13:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fight History
Does anyone think a fight history such as the ones that are on boxrec.com should be added? I'm talking about like a table that lists all of the fights, opponents, dates, rounds, and round times. I've looked around, and most boxers' pages don't have them, but nearly all of the MMA pages I've worked on do. I think it would be a big plus to have, but I'm all for uniformity on the boxing pages. What do you guys think? Capmaster 03:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nah Camp, I think it would be too bulky, we already have a link the Boxrec which would have the exact info anyway.--Vintagekits 20:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Awards
John was recently given two awards: the Rocky Marciano Award [1] and the Sports Personality of the Year Award [2]. I'm not sure who gave these out. Do you think they are significant enough to put on the page? Capmaster 22:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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- oh yeah! stick them in. Also change the title to plain old "John Duddy". regards--Vintagekits 22:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
