Talk:John Hope, 1st Marquess of Linlithgow
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Shouldn't this be moved to John Adrian Louis Hope, 7th Earl of Hopetoun, or does "Earl of Hopetoun" almost always refer to this person, like with the Duke of Wellington. If so, John Adrian Louis Hope should at least redirect here. --Jiang 23:22, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)
In his lifetime hardly anybody would have known what his actual name was, almost everybody knew him and referred to him as Lord Hopetoun. This was usually the case with peerages. And no, there was no other Earl of Hopetoun of any note.
We do have a problem with peers, I think. In Britain they are always referred to by their titles and not by their names. In a paper encyclopaedia Hopetoun would be listed under "Hopetoun, John Adrian Louis Hope, 7th Earl of", and there would be no problem. No-one would think to look for the Duke of Wellington under Wellesley. In this format I suppose a redirect from his name to his title might be a good idea.
I am in the process of writing articles on all the Governors-General of Australia, but as you see at that page I didn't decide what to call the articles. I would have used their titles rather than their names.
Adam 03:14, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Decided to be bold and add the story of Hopetoun's friendship with well known Melbourne anarchist and trade unionist, Chummy Fleming. There is probably too much detail, and when an entry for Fleming gets created, some of it can move there. I just thought it was an amusing story not to include in its entirety, including the quote from the Age report. Source for this is the Biography of Chummy Fleming by Bob James.--Takver 07:34, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
This is too long a digression in an article of this length. I suggest you write an article on Fleming and move most of it there. Adam 08:04, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning that Hopetoun, Western Australia was named in his honour?
Yes. Also Hopetoun, Victoria. Adam 07:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
