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Contents 1 Dismantling 2 "Faithless"? 3 Irrelevant categ : "nonviolence" 4 Kurdistan 5 Kongra-Gel 6 Libertarians 7 Anti-semite?

[edit] Dismantling

that he "dismantled" the restaurant seems a bit too POV for me - didnt he knock it down with a bulldozer? you "demolish" buildings, you "dismantle" IKEA furniture...

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in prison since the 19th of june till the 01 of august

check out Le Monde

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snipped in the article and google translated (yuk)

The country trade unionist did not finish any with justice. In other businesses, the destruction of organizations genetically modified (OGM) in Agen and Montpellier, it remains liable fourteen months of firm prison, pains marked in call in November 2001 and for which it was provided in cassation. It must also appear before September in front of the correctional court of Foix (Ariège), for the pulling up of colza transgenic.

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This article is presenting a very favorable view of José Bové, and not enough of the unfavorable reactions to his fight. It is also conviently avoiding to deal with the fact he has been condemned many times and is currently into jail. Anthere

It does mention that he's in jail. Criticisms of him are no different from criticisms of the "anti-globalization movement" in general and can be found at that page. --Tothebarricades.tk 04:25, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] "Faithless"?

Can someone explain what this sentence means?

After attending secondary school near Paris (from which he was expelled for being "faithless")...

What does "faithless" mean in this context? If its the literal translation of a French term, it needs to be explained because it's very puzzling to English speakers (a) what it means in this context and (b) why it's in quotes. --Jfruh 03:06, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

He was in a jesuit school. Felipeh 19:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irrelevant categ : "nonviolence"

How can a guy who dismantled a restaurant and destroyed crops can be labelled nonviolent ? And why the article's introduction give such primacy to the fact that he is among a panel of supporters of a Board that is largely unknown and which activity and impact are marginal ? --Pgreenfinch 10:25, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kurdistan

I think that this section is possibly not NPOV - they seem to be connected with the PKK, and this section seems to be a complaint against the organisation's listing as a terrorist organisation. Wee Jimmy 22:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Has someone substantiated the allegation about Bové joining the People's Congress of Kurdistan ? I have not found any clue of it on reputed French web sites... --Geo115fr 12:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kongra-Gel

I removed a bit about the Kongra-Gel being nonviolent because it was POV, tangentially relevent at best, and at the least controversial as to accuracy. The question of whether Kongra-Gel is violent is not one for this article. Read the following from U.S. Govt. sources.

• Kongra-Gel Activities Global Security
• Country Reports on Terrorism, 2004. United States Department of State, April 2005.

FROM THE U.S. STATE DEPT. TRAVEL ADVISORY FOR TURKEY: "SAFETY AND SECURITY: Terrorist bombings -- some with significant numbers of casualties -- over the past four years have struck religious, government, government-owned, political, tourist and business targets in a variety of locations in Turkey. The possibility of terrorist attacks, both transnational and indigenous, remains high. "Indigenous terrorist groups continue to target Turkish as well as U.S. and Western interests. In June 2004, the indigenous terrorist group, PKK/KADEK/Kongra-Gel, announced an end to their “unilateral ceasefire” and resumed violent activities. Two of the most significant incidents occurred in July 2005 in the town of Kusadasi, where bombs killed an Irish tourist and a British tourist. In the summer of 2005, incidents occurred in the popular coastal tourist destinations of Cesme, Bodrum, Antalya, and Mersin. Bombings have also taken place in Istanbul, injuring a Dutch citizen and several Turkish citizens. A Kurdish group ostensibly aligned with PKK terrorists, claimed responsibility for a number of bombings in tourist areas in the Aegean and Mediterranean coastal resort areas and in Istanbul. This group has also warned tourists not to visit the country. Consistent with their threats, in June 2006 this group claimed responsibility for a restaurant explosion that killed three European tourists in Manavgat, a town in Antalya Province. Further attacks by this group could take place in Turkey without warning. "In late March and early April 2006, there was a wave of unrest in the southeast region of Turkey, where the PKK/KADEK/Kongra Gel has traditionally concentrated its activities. Violent clashes involving protesters and Turkish security forces occurred in the cities of Diyarbakir, Batman, Sirnak, and Sanliurfa, resulting in several deaths, many injuries, and extensive property damage. Please see the section on Southeast Turkey for additional information. "In Istanbul in 2005 and in 2006, there have been a variety of incidents, including small-scale bombings and violent demonstrations. Most, but not all, of these incidents have occurred in neighborhoods of the city not generally frequented by tourists. PKK/KADEK/Kongra-Gel supporters on a number of occasions in 2005 and 2006 have set public buses on fire after ordering passengers to disembark. On April 3, 2006, an attack of this type resulted in three deaths and at least one severe wounding. Thus far, all attacks on buses have taken place in areas of Istanbul distant from tourist destinations." "Southeast Turkey: The PKK/KADEK/Kongra-Gel terrorist group retains a presence in certain parts of southeastern Turkey. Although the official “State of Emergency” designation has been removed for all provinces of the southeast and no provinces are currently officially designated as sensitive areas, PKK/KADEK/Kongra-Gel activity continues to increase in much of the region. Travel is becoming increasingly difficult and dangerous. Americans traveling in southeastern Turkey should exercise caution due to PKK/KADEK/Kongra-Gel violence. "Roadside explosions caused by remote controlled land mines or other improvised explosive devices in Batman, Sirnak, Hakkari, Siirt Mardin, Diyarbakir and Tunceli provinces occur regularly. There have also been a number of PKK/KADEK/Kongra-Gel raids on Jandarma posts and ambushes of Turkish security force vehicle patrols in rural areas in many southeastern Turkey provinces. Regional civil unrest that began in late March 2006 prompted clashes involving Turkish security forces and protesters and left approximately a dozen killed and several hundred wounded. In 2005, the PKK/Kadek/Kongra-Gel also attacked two trains and kidnapped two Turkish government employees in the region. Sound bombs are a frequent event throughout the region. Please be advised of these travel risk factors." http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1046.html

[edit] Libertarians

He "frequented libertarians"? First off, I assume this means he befirended or spent time with "libertarians", but is this libertarians in the English (actually more American) sense of someone for less government restriction on both the economy and personal choices? I would guess this is more in the French sense of someone more of an anarchist or an anarchocapitalist. In France, libertarian would be more like "ultra-liberale". This seems translated directly from French, maybe osomeone can clean this up. 216.43.27.51 03:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-semite?

Shouldn't it rather be anti-zionist? He has not expressed views against the jewish religion, just against the jewish state Israel. Then surely it should not be anti-semitism (to be against jews (or muslims, but it's used mostly against jews)) in general, but anti-zionism (to be against zionism).