User talk:Jstohler

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Contents 1 Surrender Monkeys 2 Image tagging for Image:Captain_obvious_example.jpg 3 Image tagging for Image:Nypost_surrender_monkeys.jpg 4 Will & Jaden Smith have GG Noms 4 The Pursuit of Happyness 5 Hal Turner Edit

[edit] Surrender Monkeys

Hi - I tried to edit your addition to Culturally significant phrases from The Simpsons but decided to remove it. I think it would be better placed added into the page for Cheese-eating surrender monkeys which is the phrase Willie used in the episode, and perhaps also to the trivia/cultural references section for the episode.

As regards the wording of your para, the phrase Surrender Monkeys was in popular use before that front page of the NYP so I don't think it would be right to imply that the NYP page followed directly from The Simpsons, which is what the page is trying to list. Let me know if you want to discuss this or think it's unfair --Mortice 19:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Mortice -- I agree that the information would go well in both of the locations you mentioned. I would submit, though, that the reason it also belongs here is that a when phrase is used in the front-page banner headline of a major daily paper, it's crossed a threshold and become "culturally significant." If you do a Google news search, "surrender monkeys" is now being used by news agencies as they discuss the Post headline, whereas before it was used pretty much within the Simpsons community. In other words. not as popular as "d'oh" but certainly more so than "tomacco."

Do a quick Google news search for the phrase and tell me what you think. -- Jstohler 20:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

You're quite right. Sorry, I had the idea that the phrase had been around ever since the second world war, but you're right, from browsing the google results, it does appear that The Simpsons invented the term, in which case it's a prime example of the sort of thing that should be on this page. I'll make some edits to the wording though --Mortice 20:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Mortice. Good talking with you. Jstohler 21:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

BTW I added the link James Baker but I don't know if that's the right guy - do you know? --Mortice 21:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

That's the one.Jstohler 21:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:Captain_obvious_example.jpg

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[edit] Image tagging for Image:Nypost_surrender_monkeys.jpg

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[edit] Will & Jaden Smith have GG Noms 4 The Pursuit of Happyness

I dunno y u deleted WS'& Jaden Smith's Golden Globe noms when u added that POH was the #1 movie & WS's 6th #1 movie, etc, etc...; but pls dont. They r both nominated.

I didn't. You need to learn how to read a history. Jstohler 02:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Let me tell you what you need to do: Come of you're horse. You neiter a king nor a God. I looked at the page and following my update and yours is what followed and had the GG info removed/deleted. Now I've looked again at history again and it is fine. Perhaps you "hid" the change like Wiki headman Jim Wales did? Perhaps(more likely) it is a fluke like over the weekend when the main page was vandalised with a giant pic of a penis, but when my I asked others to check the wiki main page, only some saw it, while other didnt. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.58.196.156 (talk) 05:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Hal Turner Edit

Hey, just wondering if you could cite yourself here?--JamesHarrison 03:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure, it's the Nation article that's referenced at the bottom of the page. Jstohler 03:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)