Talk:Kabar
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The contention that the ancient Kabars had anything to do with the Avars is erroneous. All of the ancient primary sources agree that the Kabars were rebel Khazar tribes who joined the proto-Magyars in their emigration from the Ukraine to the Danube.
I understand how this confusion might have come about. Modern Kabards belong to a modern ethnic group called Avars, whose relation, if any, to the ancient Avars is dubious and in much dispute. Language is not a static thing. Names change over 1500 years.
- Previously the page was a redirect to the Avar page (the one that described the ancient ones), so it's better that it stays as a disambiguation page because there may be other outdated/wrong references like that, and we have a proper page for Kabards anyway. You can tack on the fact that it's wrong in the article. --Shallot 08:14, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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- It would make little sense to include the Kabars as a tack-on to the Avar article. It would be equivalent to having a redirect from French language to Spanish language and a mention on the Spanish page that there was such a thing as French. Ok, the analogy isn't great, but Kabars do not = Avars at all, so the redirect is clearly in error. If there is going to be a Kabar page it should talk about Kabars.
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- Wiki is pretty handy. There's a "What links here" tab. I'll fix any links broken by this change.
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- Ddama can you produce references for your ancient your sources please? Zestauferov 16:48, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- I can't recall the primaries at the moment, but Peter Golden's Introduction to the History of the Turkic Peoples and Khazar Studies would be good places to start looking. Please note that my computer recently dropped dead, so my Wikipedia access will be intermittent until I can obtain repairs or a new computer.
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- Thts ok Ddama, take your time. I hope all goes well for youZestauferov 12:15, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Kavar and Star Wars
Kavar is also the name of a somewhat prominent character from the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Problem is, Kavar redirects to this page. How can this be resolved? Imperialles 20:36, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Nevermind, figured out how to make disambiguation pages. Searching for Kavar will now lead to such a page. Imperialles
