Image talk:Knightley - Johansson - Vanity Fair.jpg
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Only the main cover should be included as the rest is fold out and counts as material inside the magazine which we should not use. Arniep 22:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with using this image. It is the cover of a magazine that any person can view as they walk past a newstand or stand in a convenience store. By this cover being displayed here, no one is being deprived of anything at all. The will of an individual to purchase this magazine has not been altered by them being shown the cover, which, as stated, they can see just by looking into a newstand. Faja22 18:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Faja22, there is something wrong with this image. It does not have a detailed fair-use rationale provided for its uses in Tom Ford, Keira Knightley, Vanity Fair (magazine), and Scarlett Johansson. It may very well be acceptable to use this under fair use guidelines but nobody has demonstrated this yet. Please see fair use rationale. --Yamla 19:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I may be misunderstanding the concept of a detailed fair-use rationale, but, upon closer inspection, it has come to my attention that none of the photographs used in Keira Knightley possess such rationales. Unless I am misunderstanding a concept, in which case I am very sorry, I do not feel it is reasonable to single out this photograph for not having a fair-use rationale, while not pointing out the other violations of this rule. I do not dispute that this article may not have a fair use rationale, I simply feel that the problem may lie with the entire article rather than with this particular photograph.``Faja22 14:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is almost certainly true. However, I came to the image via the article on Scarlett Johansson. Please understand that I am not singling out this image alone. --Yamla 19:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I understand what you are saying. As this photograph is used in four instances, each without the proper documentation, it is possible that the originial location and purpose of this photograph has been lost. In any event, I respect the policies of Wikipedia and agree that a fair-use description needs to be provided, even if I do not entirely agree. In my own mind, the source of the image is inherent in the fact that it is a magazine cover with the words Vanity Fair across the top. Nevertheless, I do agree that the image needs documentation in order to conform to the standards of Wikipedia.``Faja22 14:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it's a good image. The problem is, we can only use it to illustrate the publication of the magazine itself, we cannot use it just to illustrate one of the people involved. At least some of the current uses seem to be under this disallowed category. For example, on the Tom Ford page. --Yamla 21:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
This image, as of yesterday is used in four articles: Tom Ford, Keira Knightley, Vanity Fair (magazine), and Scarlett Johansson. As of today, however, the image no longer appears in Tom Ford. The uses of the image in Keira Knightley, and Scarlett Johansson are both directed at illustrating one individual in the photograph. So, do you encourage removing this image from the articles on Knightley and Johansson, or should someone write a fair-use rationale for them?``Faja22 14:15, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've been too busy to check but if they are just being used to illustrate the person, this is a copyright violation of the image and no fair-use rationale will be sufficient. On the other hand, if the article contains a specific discussion of the Vanity Fair article, we can provide a fair-use rationale. --Yamla 14:47, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, Faja22, I've provided the detailed fair-use rationale. Thanks for keeping this image in my mind. :) --Yamla 14:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
