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[edit] Name

About the name in English: I find that "Lake of Como" is the most accurate, and it is the literally translation of the Italian name "Lago di Como". Looking for it on Google I also found "Como Lake", but it misleads into thinking that "Como" might be the name of the lake itself, while it's not, it's just the main town on the lake's shores.

And its real name "Lario" is used very rarely, so I don't think it should be used, I'm placing a redirect for it now. Laz 23:19 20 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I know it isn't a perfectly accurate translation, but in English, the lake is known as "Lake Como" (59,400 Google hits on English-language pages) not "Lake of Como" (1,960 hits on English-language pages). As this is the English-language Wikipedia, the convention is to give thing the most common name used in an English-language context. Therefore, I'm moving this to Lake Como. --Camembert
As you wish, but I'm still deeply convinced that this is a big mistake and it misleads people into thinking that Como is the name of the lake, while it is not at all. Google hits give the most common name, and this generally works for our purposes; but if the most common name is wrong, IMHO a good Encyclopedia should point it out and list the correct name. But I'm sure not going to argue anymore about this, we're not here to argue. I'll leave it up to someone else. Laz 12:40 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)
If you want to explain details about the lake's name, pointing out that in Italian the lake isn't called "Como" as such, then great - do so in the article. But the title should be the most common name used in an English-language context (see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)). Incidentally, the Columbia, Macmillan and Hutchinson encyclopaedias all call this "Lake Como", as does the Penguin Encyclopaedia of Places. --Camembert
I was thinking the same thing actually... a note similar to Kings Cross station's one. Ok, thanks for the tip. Laz 13:08 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)

When I saw "Lake of Como" I said "Whaaa!? Who let the Italians run amuck!" :-) It may be a fine literal translation, but "Lake of X" is extremely uncommon, Lake of the Woods is the only one that comes to mind. To borrow a line from books on software localization, one should give precedence to native speakers' ideas about what sounds right. Stan 05:49, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

Ok, I moved Lago di Como back to Lake Como. -- User:Docu

"From running a search on Google one might conclude that "Lake Como" is much more common, in English, than "Lake of Como"." - I removed this note because Google results are rather ephmeral and not necessarily a reliable source either. People who are that interested should come read this talk page. Stan 16:32, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Sincerly I think is much more accurate to name the article "Lario": Italians care about history and it's the original historic name. I find the use of Lake of something profoundly wrong and too much simplified. For example King Louis IV is offently called The King Sun... but fortunately Wikipedia uses his common name... why not do the same with our lakes? - Quattrop 17:20 03 Aug 2005 (SGT)

[edit] Risotto book link

Although the book is related to the Villa d’Este, I didn’t find this link to Amazon particulary informative

I’ve removed it rom the article for now—Ian Spackman 23:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

addition of the book was probably link spam. See User_talk:66.108.157.73 --Mattarata 22:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

This article includes superb photos. If you took them, uploaded them, added them, or captioned them, please accept my thanks. —Ian Spackman 14:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of images, does the article really need 3 panoramas? Splamo 22:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fish ?

Are there fish in the lake? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.206.165.24 (talk) 10:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Lake Como#Places on the lake

All municipality articles note which region and province they are located in, how far they are from Milan, etc, but only a few describe their location on Lake Como! -- User:Docu

Yes. Most of those little articles were created by a robot which knows about regions and provinces and demography and so forth, and can work out distances and directions from the coordinates, but knows nothing about lakes.
if you wanted to work through them—or even some of them—, adding the information, that would be great. Cheers! —Ian Spackman 13:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Indeed. I will try to do one or the other. I already went through those on Lake Lugano. -- User:Docu

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