Talk:Lasso (programming language)
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[edit] Is Lasso a major programming language?
Hi there. An anonymous user recently added Lasso to Template:Major programming languages, and I don't know enough about it to support or contest this change. It's necessary to be selective in this template to keep its size down.
Some more specific questions might be: How broad is the userbase? Has it been used in some particularly notable applications? I don't see anything in the article regarding this. I will remove it if some compelling justification isn't provided within a few days. Thanks. Deco 23:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
FYI, I'm that anonymous person. I wasn't logged in while I wrote. I'll leave it to others to answer your questions. Jussi Hirvi 8 Dec. 2005
Depends on how you define "major". Lasso is used by over 1,000 colleges and universities and more than 15,000 corporations around the world, including Apple, Cisco, Sun, Disney, NASA, the UN, Goodyear, Siemens, and has a large international following.
It would be safe to say that almost wherever you find a group of FileMaker users you will also find Lasso users/developers. I've been working with Lasso for 3 years in a special project with the Ohio Department of Education. It has proven to be the most flexible, user friendly and safest programming language our group has used within the department thus far.
Lasso is very worthy of holding a candle next to ASP (.net), PHP, JSP and CF. While Lasso still has a relatively small developer base, it's implications for data driven web sites are huge and is growing by leaps and bounds every day.
Jtorres 15:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Some examples I have collected include Apple's online Made4Mac guide at http://guide.apple.com/index.lasso, http://www.eurway.com/, http://allaboutbranding.com/, http://www.pprmi.com/ (Prudential), http://plasmadictionary.llnl.gov/ (Lawrence Livermore National Labs), http://thedaily.washington.edu/, http://galvestondailynews.com/, http://www.listsearch.com/, http://www.buywake.com/
I've personally used it for the California State Office of Education as the central info source (demographics, education history, health history, and more) for all foster youth in one of the largest CA counties (and more to come). It's used by county officials, educators, group homes, and others. As a participant in the LassoTalk developers list for six years now, I know that Lasso is used in apps like this for numerous governments, schools, and businesses.
While it began life as primarily a FileMaker thing, Lasso has since version 5 (2001) connected to more databases than most of today's vogue languages/web framework combos, and people I know use it with MySQL 4 & 5, Postgres, MS SQL Server, Oracle. Now at version 8.1 Lasso has been around for 10 years and matches any capability that any of the other major web languages has. Just have a quick gander at this site: http://reference.omnipilot.com/
Hope that helps (Greg Willits)
Lasso is the primary language we use to develop all our sites. I say include it!
Cory
As a developer of the Lasso Language for more than 6 years, Lasso is definitely a very mature and rich middleware application. Lasso has been proven in several businesses that I have worked for over the years. Revival Soy (www.revivalsoy.com) is a medium-sized company with more than 350,000 transactions/sales per year which runs on Lasso. The Conservative Voice (www.theconservativevoice.com) runs on Lasso and generally has 50,000 unique visitors per day. There are many LARGER sites that use lasso, but it's often hard to tell as many developers mask Lasso by just using the .html extension.
In it's early years, Lasso was primarily used as a connector for Filemaker Pro. In fact, Filemaker purchased and licensed the language and called it CDML for Claris Dynamic Markup Language, however Lasso still evolved over the years and has become to this day, a very rich and mature language.
The Lasso Language is used in nearly every industry from real estate, shopping portals, flight booking, blogs and government sectors. Most people that use Lasso talk of it's short learning curve because it's "tags" are in relatively plain english and someone with good HTML experience could pickup the core coding techniques in just a few days.
Lasso primarily connects to MySQL & Filemaker Pro to create web enabled databases applications but has an ODBC connector to connect to other databases such as Oracle, Postgres, MS SQL Server and 4D among others.
Another good point of Lasso is that it has a write once, host anywhere ability as the source code is the same to run on Windows, Red Hat Linux and Mac OS X. (With few exceptions).
Sincerely, Marc Pope
[edit] Worthy of Inclusion
I would include it. It's the leader in connecting to Filemaker databases as well as the best tool for working with MYSQL that I have found. lewissan
It would seem that if PHP is to be included as a "Major Programming Language", one would have to also include Lasso. The two are often compared and contrasted in the same manner Illustrator and Freehand are, with ease of use clearly falling on the side of Lasso. As far as using Lasso for connecting to sophisticated backend databases, Lasso is unrivaled in its simplicity. For a list of hundreds of sites implementing Lasso in its various incarnations, you can visit: http://www.lassodevelopment.com/sites/
-Rick Dwyer
With Lasso being around as long and in some cases even longer than other web development languages, I find it incredible the question is even being asked. Our business uses Lasso for building web products for tht real estate industry. WWW.pprmi.com handles a billion in real estate sales and is ranked in the top 50 real estate companies. www.fivestaragents.com is another using Lasso that we handle that is just behind in those numbers. Other industries also using Lasso includes SpamHaus.org, Apple, NASA, University of Arkansas, Revival Soy and Cambridge Antibody Technology just to name a few.
- Jim Van Heule
Having spent over a decade working with Lasso as my primary major programming language, and writing a book on the language back in 2000 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1556229615/ there are certainly thousands upon thousands of us who know what Lasso is and use it in our everyday life. Lasso should certainly be included as a "Major Programming Language".
- Duncan Cameron
[edit] platforms
"quote: Lasso Server runs on Mac OS X, Windows 2000, Windows 2003 and Red Hat Linux."
I'm running it on windows XP right now (don't worry, not production ;). Just for making sites locally so i don't have to keep uploading files), and i doubt it only runs on Red Hat's flavor of Linux. Which other platforms does it run on?
- Jonne (can't be arsed to log in)
[edit] php bottles of beer
Link to PHP version of bottles of beer on the wall goes to the wiki PHP page that doesn't mention the bottle of beer algorithm.
