Talk:Lenin's Mausoleum
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"Lenin's Tomb" is 3x more common than "Lenin's mausoleum" according to Google, which accords to my personal sense of which is most common, but I invite discussion before moving it back. Stan 21:49, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- "lenin's tomb" 6,570
- "lenin's mausoleum" 2,240
- "lenin mausoleum" 6,820
- It should be "lenin mausoleum" not just because it gets the most hits, but because it returns which looks like the official homepage as well http://www.lenin.ru/index_e.htm and overall, the sites look better than with "lenin's tomb". Mrdice 22:00, 2004 Feb 26 (UTC)
but without quotes:
- <Lenin tomb> = 36,300
- <Lenin mausoleum> = 12,500
Probably there's some odd sort of add-the-s, don't-add-the-s Google algorhythm thing going on, and also some effect of counting non-English and non-idiomatically-translated-into-English sites. My perception agrees with the "raw count": Lenin's Tomb is what this is usually called in English. - Nunh-huh 22:09, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've now seen what looks the the official home page, which uses "Lenin Mausoleum". We do often use a common but unofficial name, the classic example being Bill Clinton, who doesn't actually appear that way in his official Whitehouse bio [1]. (BTW, Google results are not accurate enough for 6500 vs 6800 to be meaningful, only 2x or greater differences are not skewed by the chaos that is the web today.) Stan 22:23, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Although it bothered me a bit when I wrote the first article today that it was called "Lenin's Tomb" and not "Mausoleum", I did not think much of it. However, now that I see that the debate has sprung, I'd support the idea of moving it to "Lenin's Mausoleum". It is called "Mavzolej Lenina" in Russian, and "Mausolée de Lénine" in French (although I've also heard "Tombeau de Lénine", i.e. "Lenin's Tomb"), and I reckon it makes more sense to call it "Lenin's Mausoleum" than "Tomb" in English, even if this implies disregarding Google search results numbers. - F. Delpierre 22:53, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- But it should not ignore actual English usage. The article belongs where English-speaking people expect to find it, not where we would extrapolate they "should" expect to find it based on French and Russian usages. The decision should be made on the basis of actual English usage. - Nunh-huh 23:01, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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- Apart from whether it's a good idea or not, I don't think it's an actual wikipedia policy, and it certainly isn't widely obeyed. Most people would search for Lenin, yet the article is called Vladimir Lenin, most people would search for Burma, and yet the article is called Myanmar. Mrdice 23:09, 2004 Feb 26 (UTC)
As it seems, someone's already made the change & redirection, anyway. - User:F. Delpierre 23:05, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- That was me. This talk page was created after that. Mrdice 23:11, 2004 Feb 26 (UTC)
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[edit] Aleksei/Alexei/Alexey (Алексей)
I don't know if this is of any worth, but I did notice that the Russian name Aleksei/Alexei/Alexey (Алексей) is on this page written in three different ways. This might well be unimportant, but I thought I'd point it out.
[edit] The line
Is there really still a hour-long line to visit Mausoleum? Could anybody who was there recently confirm?
I saw it in 2003 and there was a long queue then, mabye not quite an hour but not far off. 1 hour could well be an accurate average figure, anyone have any accurate figure's? A quick google didn't come up with anything. Ed 20:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- I also visited in 2003 but did not have to queue at all. That was in winter, so maybe it would be better to say that queues can be long in tourist season? Breakfast1 13:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] External links
I think TeaDrinker is wrong about http://www.vilenin.info/.
http://www.vilenin.info/ have voting about carrying out of a body of Lenin from the Mausoleum, except for that a site contains more than 586 comments of high quality with various estimations about Lenin's activity and the Mausoleum.
Please, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TeaDrinker#Lenin.27s_Mausoleum
With respect, Aleksandr 82.208.121.130 22:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Wikimapia = Google Maps + Wiki technology. I think, link on Wikimapia is better then link on Google Maps.
I can't see there virtual mausoleum with any VRML browser, I think virtual mausoleum was deleted or did not exist, other information on this site are not unique. I think, it is promo site to ParallelGraphics company
Has very small content about Red Square, not Lenin's Mausoleum
With respect, 82.208.126.38 17:16, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I also find other links on www.moscow-life.com :
1. http://www.moscow-life.com/culture/culture_details/31-Bolshoi_Theatre linked from Bolshoi Theatre 2. http://www.moscow-life.com/culture/culture_details/59-State_Historical_Museum linked from State Historical Museum 3. http://www.moscow-life.com/drink/pubs_cafes_details/11-Hungry_Duck linked from The Hungry Duck 4. http://www.moscow-life.com/moscow/metro linked from Moscow Metro 5. http://www.moscow-life.com/moscow/olympic-games linked from 1980 Summer Olympics 6. http://www.moscow-life.com/moscow/red-square linked from Red Square 7. http://www.moscow-life.com/moscow/seven-sisters linked from Seven Sisters (Moscow) 8. http://www.moscow-life.com/play/entertainment_details/70-Gorky_Park linked from Gorky Park (Moscow) 9. http://www.moscow-life.com/shop/shops_details/66-GUM linked from State Universal Store 10. http://www.moscow-life.com/sleep/hotels_details/3-Hotel_Leningradskaya linked from Hotel Leningradskaya
I also deleted:
1. http://www.moscow-life.com/culture/culture_details/31-Bolshoi_Theatre linked from Bolshoi Theatre 2. http://www.moscow-life.com/culture/culture_details/59-State_Historical_Museum linked from State Historical Museum 3. http://www.moscow-life.com/drink/pubs_cafes_details/11-Hungry_Duck linked from The Hungry Duck 4. http://www.moscow-life.com/play/entertainment_details/70-Gorky_Park linked from Gorky Park (Moscow) 5. http://www.moscow-life.com/shop/shops_details/66-GUM linked from State Universal Store 6. http://www.moscow-life.com/sleep/hotels_details/3-Hotel_Leningradskaya linked from Hotel Leningradskaya
With respect, 82.208.126.38 17:41, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History
Just a question: When was that central tribune added atop? Early pictures show the leaders reviewing at the left side. Some sources say it was added in 1945. Others say 1941. Darth Sidious 22:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Guard of Honour
Link's all wrong. AllStarZ 05:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Photography
When I was in Moscow in 1994, there was no long lineup and photography was allowed, and you could keep your hands in your pockets if you wanted. This is different from 1991, when a guard yelled at me to keep my hands out of my pockets as I was trying to put a glove in there. (In Russian culture, holding your hands in your pockets is considered highly disrespectful.)
Did the situation with photography change? If not, a correct is in order. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.100.104.29 (talk) 21:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC).
- I just visited Lenin's mausoleum in March 2007. No photography was allowed. I already knew better than to have my hands in my pockets, but the guy in front of me in line was made to remove his hands from his pockets by a guard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.180.251.176 (talk) 21:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC).
