Talk:List of Jews in sports
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[edit] Merger
List of Jews in sports and List of Jewish American athletes seem to have substantial overlap. I suggest that the latter article be merged into this one. -Will Beback 23:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree. the List of Jewish American athletes has also been a surprising vandalism target and there appear to be few people watching it. Merging it into a larger page can only help. --Bachrach44 17:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- Good thinking
- Agree. Several other lists of Jews need to be merged. "Jewish American actors" with "List of Jewish actors and actresses", for example. JackO'Lantern 20:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ethnicity lists discussion
Please see discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) for current discussion of a potential policy to apply to all ethnicity lists on Wikipedia, including this one. JackO'Lantern 20:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Undertaker
Whoever put Undertaker on this list should post some viable proofs to it, as this is the first time I have ever heard of him being Jewish. DuDe 14:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- He isn't Jewish. I'll remove him. Mad Jack 15:49, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- It seems that Brian Pillman and Glen Jacobs were removed as well, but ObsessedWithWrestling lists them as being Jewish, and they appear to be pretty anal about their information (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/jewish.html). Now, I'm not much of an expert on the matter, but maybe they should be put back on the list?
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Someone incerted * Tarek Ali tunisian club international ( I keep original spelling) Cannot find any second reference about him on Internet. And Ali is a Muslim name. E. W.July 3, 2006
List of Jews in sport shall be revised. Too many individuals without any worthy achievements in the list only because their Israeli or Jews. They can find place in stubs about sports in Israel. I offer very clear criteria. E. W. July 3, 2006
[edit] Rex Grossman - not Jewish
Despite the name... from Jews in Sports October 29, 2000, "Though we generally do not offer information on non-Jewish athletes, the high number of emails we have received regarding Florida QB Rex Grossman has prompted us to let our readers know that he is not Jewish." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NjtoTX (talk • contribs) 01:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Evgeni Malkin
I've removed Evgeni Malkin from this list (again). WP:RS is a non-negotiable policy, and unless the people who continue to re-add him to the list (and make the claim that he's Jewish on his own page) provide an actual source for this claim, I'll continue to remove it. Geoffrey Spear 19:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deleting Categories of Jewish Athletes
At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion#Category:Jewish_fencers some people are suggesting that Jewish athletes, beginning with Jewish Fencers, should be deleted. I do not think that is the correct approach, or consistent with wiki policy, and thought that others might want to weigh in on the discussion. --Epeefleche 23:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] David Beckham is not Jewish, he is a quarter Jewish
Beckham said so himself: [1] "..I'm a quarter Jewish..." He shouldn't be written as Jewish just because he had a Jewish ancestor (which was even his mother's father not mother's mother). He may participate in Kaballah but so does Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher and they are not said to be Jewish like Beckham. I saw on List of British Jews that Beckham has a reference from this webpage: [2] but views like this shouldn't be taken as the only truth. After all, there are lots of articls that make such conclusions in sentence form: http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000002D476.htm Muhammed Ali is Irish? http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=3452&date=20060403 George W. Bush is Swedish?
You can find a lot of stuff on the internet, and from good looking places, this doesn't make them the ultimate truth. Wikipedia has a mechanism that helps deal with this. We shouldn't report anything that isn't well-established as if it was well-established. It is ok to mention that Beckham likes some aspects of Jewish culture and participates in them on his article, but so do a lot of people, and just because Beckham had a Jewish grandparent doesn't make him any more Jewish in totality than others.
[edit] Charles C. Moskowitz -- under basketball
Query whether he is notable, or should be deleted. I was not able to confirm the NBA Commissioner add, and deleted the reference, for starters, to his being a fine basketball player.--Epeefleche 20:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
if you were in AEPi you'd know that being a fine basketball player is a crucial part of who he was
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- The criteria, as indicated on the first page, is: "This list includes Jews who have had outstanding achievements in sports. The criteria is: a) 1-3 places winners at major international tournaments; b) for team sports, winning in preliminary competitions of finals at major international tournaments, or playing for several seasons for clubs of major national leagues; c) owners of world records; and d) for sportsmen who do not pass this criteria but are still active, we recommend using section "Champion Hope" for each sport." --Epeefleche 21:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
There is no evidence that he meets the criteria listed above. I suggest that his entry be deleted. --Epeefleche 20:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
