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[edit] Canadian vs US air dates

The Original Air Dates refer to US Television. In Canada they run earlier ("Michael" ran Friday, Jan 13). Would someone who knows the Canadian air dates please correct the dates to when they aired first (me don't know all dates nor if this is intentional)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.74.174.159 (talk • contribs).

RE: I think we should leave the original U.S. air dates, because that was how SG-1 TV episodes are dated as well as season 1 of Atlantis. Besides the fact that SG-1 and Atlantis were products and originated from the U.S. we should leave it accordingly, despite the fact that this year Canada seems to be a little rougue by airing it before it airs in the U.S. You can get part of Canada's TMN airdates here [1], as they do not leave a history of past air dates. Although they have been airing the show on Monday nights with the exception of the last episode, 218.
Also, does anyone know why the table for Season 3 is a bit "jacked up?" I did a visual comparison with Season 2's but could not find any inconsistencies that would cause it to not extend the second column fully. -- therearenospoons 02:13, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
I think it should be amended to mention that the dates are US air dates and that the series was shown earlier on Canadian television. "Original airdate" is sorta misleading at the moment, y'know? :) --Andylkl [ talk! | c ] 21:17, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion, the airdate should be the one from the country that aired it first. Since some episodes aired in Canada quite some time before than they did in the US, there is no point in keeping "US airdates". I am not sure how the airing was in the previous seasons but if anyone has the information, it should be corrected. --Tone 23:39, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
I also think that the airdates should be as the original, as in how they aired in Canada. As for the show being American; both series are filmed and produced in Canada, Vancouver, BC, specifically, and in fact, the only American actor in this series is Joe Flanigan, all others are Canadian, so that should not be your basis for showing the US airdates. (Grizzwald 19:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC))
The consensus seems to be to go with Canada's airdates, so it has been done. Anyone with objections feel free to revert the changes, otherwise, it seems only logical to go with how the word original is defined. Again, does anyone know why Season 3's table is smaller than the other Seasons'? Visual code comparison seems shows no differences, but yet WYSINWYG =( - therearenospoons 02:36, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Season 2 original airdates from IMDB, Please, no more mods to original air dates for Season 2 since they are correct. therearenospoons 10:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Which are the Canadian ones for the second part of season 2. No reason to keep US dates I agree --SoWhy 14:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
211 onward (that is, 211 through 220) is the second half of season 2. I already made the change a couple days ago. I just noticed someone changing 220's after I had already changed them to Canadian on 20:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC), per my reply three paragraphs above (not including this one). BTW, 220 rocks--can hardly wait for 301 =) therearenospoons 00:55, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Is it known when season 3 will be aired?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Read through the Gateword forums that season 3 might start airing in June, quite a long way to go. :) --Andylkl [ talk! | c ] 06:19, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Season 2 showed US airdates for 201 to 210 and Canadian dates for 211 to 220 (whichever aired first), as per discussion above, however the later US dates were shown for 111 to 120 rather than the earlier Canadian dates. I have corrected, using data from GEOS Nfitz 17:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Using the American air dates makes some sense, however, does it make sense to have complete summaries of episodes that are "TBA"? --Idjit 14:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

"Original airdate" - the American airdates for the 2nd half of Season 2 are no longer the original airdate, as Canada is showing it first Canada is the Original airdate. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 14:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sister article - FL!

List of Stargate SG-1 episodes recently was upgraded to a Featured list. See if we can copy the formatting and structure and so on from over there and make it a double-whammy. Main things were referencing, fair-use tagging. -- Alfakim --  talk  14:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Broken Convention' in Misbegotten (aka 302)

It seems the image file naming convention has been broken on this one, e.g. 'Episode Name (Stargate Atlantis).ext' Let's try to keep it the same from now, at least to somewhat bring it up to the same standards as our sister article. Also please make note of the image licensing tagging that has been employed by the FL model. I have already implemented this in the screenshot for 301 as well as the splash, see them for details. -therearenospoons 15:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Licensing Standard

For those who are uploading screenshots for Stargate Atlantis use the following license with your upload. It is modeled after the Style Guide Featured List standards.

Fair use : The following should be the text on all Stargate Atlantis screenshot image pages that are used on this article:

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A screenshot from the [[science fiction]] [[television series]] ''[[Stargate Atlantis]]''.
==Licensing==
{{tv-screenshot}}
==Rationale for fair use in [[List of Stargate Atlantis episodes]]==
{{fairusein|List of Stargate Atlantis episodes}}
This picture is being used in Wikipedia's episode listing for the television show ''[[Stargate Atlantis]]'' ([[MGM]]). Although it is subject to copyright, the [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~tim/counter/?hide_minor=on&page=List_of_Stargate_Atlantis_episodes editors] of Wikipedia, among them myself (~~~) in particular, feel that it is covered by [[US]] [[fair use]] laws because:
* It is a low resolution still image;
* It does not limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the related product in any way
Further, we believe our use of the image is fair because it is not being used merely to decorate the related article, but rather:
* Aids commentary on the plot outline;
* Poignantly illustrates the related episode
Particularly because:
* It illustrates the significant moment which characterises the episode in question.
[[Category:Screenshots of Stargate Atlantis]]

If the screenshot was taken from a DVD, then use:

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{{film-screenshot}}

in place of

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{{tv-screenshot}}

on line 3 of the aforementioned code block. All screenshots from on the List of Stargate Atlantis episodes follow this licensing model. Please help keep it consistent. -therearenospoons 19:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

When i upload images, i use what ever text i type. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 19:31, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
PS: your summary is flawed, it doesnt specify a source or a author. Matthew Fenton (contribs) 19:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Flawed summary

All I have to say is go tell that to the Stargate SG-1 Featured List Style Guide. There IS a reason WHY it is a Featured List :P -therearenospoons 20:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

He's right, source information is required. The SG1 list has source info for all images. the above codeblock was designed just to word the legalese of a fair-use rationale, its not the "only" text on the image page. --Alfakim-- talk 20:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for more participants for WikiProject List of Television Episodes

Currently WikiProject List of Television Episodes is looking for more participants and input for the project. If anyone is interested in giving their input please drop by the project page or the talk page. The quality of this article is excellent, and think anything the editors here could share would be greatly appreciated. -- Ned Scott 07:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] episode 312

Someone posted that this episode was going to be aired on the 27th. I can not find any listings to support. Anyone else find anything on this?

Seriously? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 01:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
the 27th on Movie Channel in Canada... -Xornok 22:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


I have a strong feeling that we will be watching Misbegotten here in Canada tomorrow. I have reviewed TMN and Movie Central's online listings.

Yet again, there is no listing to support this episode on 12/04.

312 was released on the 27th. I just watched it. I'll change the article. [stargate70]

TMN isn't planning on airing any new episodes until at least January. It's only Movie Central in western Canada that is airing new episodes. I had checked the Vancouver listing in zap2it.com last week, and they did list the new episode (312) for Monday November 27th. As 312 is now available for download in HDTV from demonoid, I can only assume that it aired on schedule. The episode was also listed at Movie Central's website (as episode 51). After 312 things are a bit more iffy, as Movie Central hasn't got their December listings up yet, and Zap2it is showing "No Episode Title". Nfitz 22:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 314 Sunday

I think the listings are wrong.. Tao of Rodney is 315 and Sunday is 314. There seems to be nothing about the episode called "Sunday" GenestealerUK 21:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

no, tao of rodney just aired as 314, sunday will be either 316 or 317... -Xornok 21:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Gateworld lists Sunday as 314, Tao of Rodney as 315, and The Game as 316. nmw 00:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

yep, but if you read the page carefully, they say that that is their production order, not their airing order. ken c., a writer for the show, said that sunday was filmed earlier cause of time and budget reasons... but its suppose to air after the ark, making it the 17 episode... -Xornok 03:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Any idea when 315 comes out?

As an aussie, its kinda confusing wondering what the date will be down here when the Canadian broadcast Stargate Atlantis ep goes up. Presumably it will be 'The Game', but who knows. At the moment, down under, its the 19th, almost the 20th, but the episode from the 18th still isnt up. Any ideas?

Sorry its not wikipedia specific :P But please, help a fan out :) Thanks for developing this episode guide, it's really helped with all the confusion after "Sunday" wasn't aired.

[edit] Episode Numbers

Are the Episode Numbers supposed to be production numbers or not? Sunday was produced prior to Tao of Rodney, but was meant to be aired after. --00:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I thought it meant airdate order. Anyway, it was missing a number so I fixed that until someone can decide otherwise. ---16 Jan 2007

[edit] A general complaint about the summary articles of each episode

Um, I read through each episode summary recently and came to a conclusion. Most of them to be rewritten partially or completely, preferably with fewer instances of "meanwhile" and "suddenly". I would do it, but I have only seen the first few episodes. Someone who has seen all the episodes would be better suited to going through the summaries. I put this here because it's easier than posting it in the discussion sections of all however many episodes there are. --harmsc12

[edit] Sunday, 314 vs 317

I think until there is a confirmation or a source on the change of the production numbers, we go with www.gateworld.net as a source. Obviously the storyline doesn't make sense if 314 aired before 315 or 316, we should maintain consistency with www.gateworld.net as we do use them as a source. Any thoughts on this? Idjit 18:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but broadcast is more reliable, the episodes aired in that order and so until a higher source says otherwise they are the correct order. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm confused; Tao of Rodney (03x14) wasn't actually aired on December 11, was it? AFAIK, it's not been aired at all yet!? -- FND 08:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
It hasn't aired in the US yet, but it has in Canada.EnsRedShirt 18:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I see - any clue when it will be aired in the US then? -- FND 07:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
May or june probably. EnsRedShirt 07:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hm, I think that's unlikely; the current season will be long over by then!? -- FND 10:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
not in the US. the return part 2 wont air until april 6th, iirc... -Xornok 14:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 318 pic

it looks too much like 317 pic. we should change one of them... -Xornok 19:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll be changing the 318 picture to JPG soon when I get around to watching the episode, so I'll choose another frame if another editor doesn't update it. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 19:02, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reformatting, etc

Before I go in and begin work I'll tell you guys here first, I intend to (beginning with season one) reformat the LOE to use {{Episode list}}, I will also be correcting file-names on some of the images (proper nouns, etc - Poisoning the well (Stargate Atlantis) would become Poisoning the Well (Stargate Atlantis)) and updating a few screen captures. As well I will also be uploading web-resolution screen captures over the present ones and rewriting/rewording the synopses for grammar, etc. Does anybody "object" to this? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Alien race

http://gateworld.net/news/2007/02/season_four_to_premiere_this_fal.shtml

According to Gateworld, a new alien race will be revealed in Season 4.


—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.49.98.177 (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Teal'c in Atlantis

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/02/amanda_tapping_.html

According to this page, Teal'c will be in the fourth season of Altantis.

"He added that Christopher Judge, who plays Teal’c on “SG-1,” will guest on one early fourth season episode of “Atlantis"

The Episode is noted on it's page and cited back to Joe's latest blog entry. EnsRedShirt 09:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violations in episode synopses?

I'm totally new to Wikipedia, so please forgive any mistakes I may make in this or in the similar post I've put in the SG-1 episode list forum.

I'm concerned that there are significant copyright violations in at least three of the Wikipedia Atlantis episode synopses, all from the second season. Large sections of each synopsis are borrowed almost word-for-word from the official synopses at SciFi Channel's site, without any citation. The three problem articles I've discovered are: "Duet" (WP synopsis vs. SciFi synopsis), "Epiphany" (WP synopsis vs. SciFi synopsis), and "The Long Goodbye" (WP synopsis vs. SciFi synopsis).

I hope that someone with more experience than I have can address this potential problem; with apologies for passing the buck, I'm probably not the person for the job. It's taken me more time than I expected--and can spare--just to learn how to post this message! Thanks. Kiramin 18:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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