Talk:Llama
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[edit] Breeding
There are many useful tips on breeding in this article, which may of be scientific value. The problem is it's not written to be scientifically useful, it's written like a guide for llama breeders, which Wikipedia is not. I attempted to clean up some of it, taking out the personal asides and "cute" quips, but the trade vernacular and casual writing style needs a big overhaul. --The reverend 07:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] llama song
Does that link to the llama song need to be there? Samuel 15:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- No. —Tokek 14:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reference
On your Internet page you make reference to Gregory (F. Gregorius) de Bolivar. I also ran into this traveller in Schröder's pharmacopeia of 1685. He allegedly crossed the equator seven times. Was unable to find any information on this person, not even in the British Library. The F in front of his name seems to indicate that he was a Jesuite.
Do you have any information on printed works where you got your information from?
borberg@pacbell.net
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.199.228.66 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 29 October 2002.
- The article also lacks reference to Camas. Pictureuploader 01:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "see also"
Don't the articles in the "see also" section usually have some connection to the article, other than a similarity in spelling? The entries here seem more appropriate for a disambig page. Joyous 23:04, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Spanish conquest and the llama
I believe Francisco Pizarro's contact with the llamas is mentioned in William H. Prescott's "The Conquest of Peru" Chapter IV, so if anyone needs to make the citation, you can look up the book at http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext98/hcpru10a.txt . --Dynamax 23:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Noga
Why exactly does Noga redirect to Llama? The S 03:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] monty python's llama song
The Llama is a quadruped which lives in big rivers like the Amazon. It has two ears, a heart, a forehead, and a beak for eating honey, but it is provided with fins for swimming.
Llamas are larger than frogs.
Llamas are dangerous, so if you see one where people are swimming, you shout,
'Look out, there are Llamas!'
[edit] Cloven-hoof
Are llama truly considered as having a Cloven-hoof, which is what it seems to say here? Thanks -- 63.226.38.196 03:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, llamas have a cloven hoof. Their foot is formed of two toes which have very large toe nails - Page with photo and information Hellmark 18:01, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Inherently funny word
I think all these references serve to illustrate that "llama" is (or seems to me to be) a perfect example of an inherently funny word. Maybe we should make a reference to this somewhere amidst all the llama jokes. —EatMyShortz 17:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering if being around Llamas for extended periods of time have have an health effects? If you do not know, can you point me to a referance source that might know? Thanks..≈
- I enjoy hanging out in the pasture with the llamas and a good book under the tree. They come and check out what I'm doing and hang out with me for a while. They are incredibly curious critters. To me, they are very soothing in the stature and nature. Rboesen 16:17, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Llama Diet
What do they eat? Just curious. I usually go to wikipedia to find these sorts of facts and was surprised to find this page lacking. 65.213.77.129 18:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Llamas tyically eat just grass and plants in the wild. In a zoo or as a pet they will eat alfalfa hay, lick salt, and llama chow. I put this info into the article, but someone deleted it.
If someone would like to know more info on llamas, just write your questions here. I will answer them. (I am a llama expert). --Daffy100 00:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cool
Llamas are incredibly cool. They also spit at people which is truly a remarkable talent.
[edit] Edit of 14:49, 7 June 2006
i like llamas!
[edit] Llamas are used as golf caddies
I've never heard of this before...Can anyone confirm this, or is it pure speculation? Phelan 22:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Reply:llamas are indeed used as golf caddies. You can support this fact by going to these sights that refer to llamas as caddies: llamaweb.com, attra.org, llamapaedia.com, and animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu.--Daffy100 22:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I should have googled before asking, after doing so I've found lots of sites talking about it, including photos.--Phelan 06:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Football Manager "LLaMa"
The term LLaMa is also used to distinguish the players of a certain style of the Sports Interactive football management sim "Football Manager".
The term "Lower League Managers" was coined when the Forum known as "Crap Manager City" was expelled from the Sports Interactive Messageboard circa 1999 and the webmasters recognised a need for a Forum for such players to congregate and communicate on.
LLaMas, formed from the acronym LLM...Lower League Managers, play the game straight from the box, with the latest Sports Interactive patch installed, and without using tips, cheats, editors or anything other than their own mettle they take a lowly team, from the lowest playable division from any given nation to success...or failure...over games lasting as long as 150 seasons or more, although 30+ seasons is a more normal number.
A llama known as Frank is recognised as their spiritual leader and has been known to spit death at non-believers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added to Llama by 85.241.75.177 (talk • contribs) .
Did someone vandalize the llama behavior section?
Should there be any discussion (or a disambiguation page) for the computer gamer slang 'llama'? Karlkatzke 01:27, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Reply: The gaming definition of llama is indeed discussed here. I agree there should be a disambiguation page for it. uKER 31 Jan 2006
The term "LLaMa" is indeed used for players of Championship/Football Manager in a certain manner and has been used for at least seven years in an online community of over 75000 members, so is hardly criteria for "something made up in school one day". Frank, the mascot and random lower league team picker for Football Manager 2006 receives in excess of 3000 hits a day.
I have moved the content to a new article, Llama (computer culture) and incorporated the Football Manager content. -- Adam J Hepton Talk 08:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] llama-ry sort of things...
i love the way you say llama. anyway, wot is the difference between llamas and alpacas? isnt one of them bigger. so , im very sorry to everyone that i have insulted by not knowing, but its something i have always wanted to know and nobody has ever told me!-- thnks leila/kat
Llamas are larger then their alpaca cousins. They both are camelids and have many of the same behaviors. In the US, alapcas are very expensive. However, it is commonly known that this price bubble will not last. Also, llamas are more versatile then most alpacas. Llamas are used for more then just their fiber which is now in many regards just as good as alpaca fiber. Llamas are used for packing up trails, pulling carts and kids show them in llama shows throughout the US. The largest region for llama shows in the Michigan / Ohio area - although you can find them just about anywhere in the US. Rboesen 18:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Llamas are also more aggressive than alpacas. I would know... --TheGreatLlama (speak to the Llama!) 00:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- That is true. However, the way you state your subject, one may think llamas are these huge predators or such. Nothing could be further from the truth. Llamas are typically territorial but can also bond to sheep flocks to guard them against coyotes. But, the wary Guard llama does not have a chance against a pack of dogs or wolves. I compare alpacas to sheep and llamas to cats when trying to explain the difference in personalities to those who do not know the difference. Oh - I should know, too. Rboesen 12:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] cite
I'm going to try citing some sources in this article. Anyone, feel free to help... --The Great Llama(speak to the Llama!) 23:11, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Selective Breeding
Well selective breeding is when farmers get certain animals to mate in order to get the best quality young they can. Many people believe this is tampering with nature and should not be done. If you agree with these people then contact them and arrange to meet.
HELP! Selective breeding is cruel. How would you like it if you have to mate with someone you do not like or even know.
- You know, this really isn't all that cruel. In the wild, an animal often mates with the first other animal of its species that it comes across, or risk not mating at all. In a herd situation (to my understanding, llamas are herd animals), that may very well be with one of its own relatives (the alternative being to look for a new herd, and with predators like cougars running around, that just ain't safe). Often in animals, the strongest male has sole breeding rights--so a female llama wouldn't have a choice anyway. At least with selective breeding, the farmer can ensure that the baby will be healthier, by coming from unrelated parents that don't have health issues like diseases or heart murmurs. That isn't being cruel, it's being considerate. 71.217.114.221 19:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Don't mean to criticize, but you will avoid formatting mishaps if you start with a colon ":" character to indent the text, and then keep typing until end of paragraph. It is not necessary to press Enter at the end of every line. Phaedrus86 21:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] umm....
How many llama's can you fit in a bassoon case? 9 9 9 blendered llamas how many llamas can you fit in a cubicle? 12 12 12 normal llama's
[edit] Llama Appreciation Day
A noteworthy holiday in Midlothian, Virginia (a few miles outside of Richmond, Virginia) is Llama Appreciation Day, celebrated by the students of Midlothian High School yearly on October 8th. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Randomdramaguy (talk • contribs) 22:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Merge with Llama Hiking
In my opinion, this article should reference Llama Hiking but it should not be merged. Ideally, we would remove some other information from this article and break it out as well. For example, I think notable Llamas should be broken out into its own article and return this article back to just about the animal and not the extra topics that surround it. Just my thoughts. Rboesen 13:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I had the same thought, after reading through both. Seconded. User:ftw.disconinja 9:46, 13 February 2007
[edit] Llamas love to eat...
LLamas eat grass hay and graze for grass, and weeds. Mostly anything that grows in a field. American Owners often give them a special grain that gives them special nutrients that is lacking in American soil.
I would have to say that a llama's favorite food is Alfalfa. They will run at top speeds towards you at just a hint of alfalfa on your cloths. They get so happy when they get to eat alfalfa they swing their heads around and leap in the air. The problem with alfalfa is that it cause a problem called clumping. Llama offal (poop) is like rabbit droppings. it's called Llama beans. Except when they eat alfalfa, which causes the llama beans to stick together before it comes out. It's harder for the llamas to go number 2 when a the llama beans have "clumped" into a mass the size of a medium pine cone.
So do a llama a favor, a don't give them alfalfa.
As for the llama hiking page, I feel that it should stay separate, but have a reference in the See Also section of the Llama info page. Hiking with llamas is a specialty, as is carting with llamas.
207.118.101.174 03:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC) John Patrick, www.birdoasis.com
[edit] Llamas in pop culture - Another song
I remember a song from Seasame Street when I was young (late 1970's early 1980's) about a boy and his llama going to the dentist. I don't know if they still air that or not though.
68.166.53.26 21:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
