Talk:Manchester, New Hampshire

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Contents 1 Copyright violation 2 POV 3 Dead ends? 4 Economy Section 5 Non-FU image 6 Officer Michael Briggs 7 Statistics are our friends, 8 Promote Manchester

[edit] Copyright violation

This article was reverted back to the 28 Jul 2004 version, due to a copyright violation and per the instructions at WP:CP. The original complaint;

• Manchester, New Hampshire from [1]. I haven't flagged the article as a copyvio yet, as I wanted a second opinion. Virtually every sentence in the history section of Manchester, New Hampshire is lifted verbatim from the amoskeagfalls.com site, but there has been a fair amount of condensing of the material, removal of sentences, and minor editting. This looks like a copyvio to me (which could be fixed without too much rework). For now, I've added the amoskeagfalls.com site as a Reference. Thoughts? -- Kaszeta 18:30, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

--Duk 00:21, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I have managed to restore every section except for the offending history section. Aside from transportation and sports (which I personally wrote), I can't be able to ascertain as to the nature of the other sections (e.g. Interesting facts and Culture, though they look more like listings someone threw together than something taken verbatim from somewhere else). Pentawing 07:09, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fixed population figures. --Caponer 22:19, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Do the websites of two political parties belong on this page? The issue of balance comes into play because there are surely other political organizations in the city. Where is the line drawn? The Dem and GOP links ought to be removed.

--[[User::fsguitarist|Fsguitarist]] 17:40, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The young republicans link was kind of the opposite of what I had in mind. I was thinking delete them all.

--[[User::fsguitarist|Fsguitarist]] 20:14, 21 December 2005

I concur on scrapping the partisan links. Looked at Keene, Nashua, Concord, Portsmouth Wiki articles and none has political links. But if one party's there, all should be (can of worms, though.)

Added city high schools to the Article (they're on those other city's sites, by the way.) West has an Article already, but no other school does yet.

Also included link to a new Article I created today listing Manchester's mayors, and added a library link. If arena football gets a link, so does the library! Nhprman 23:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Note to anonymous editor 24.91.227.200, please consider rephrasing your additions about growth in the city without political statements that reflect a certain point of view. Opinion isn't allowed in Wikipedia articles, which should always reflect a neutral point of view. Nhprman ^UserLists 06:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dead ends?

The trivia that says Elm Street is the longest dead-end street in the country and is the only street that has two dead ends seems false. There are tons of streets that just start and stop as dead-ends. This can't be right. Awiseman 16:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

For example, look at Wentworth Street in Manchester. It has two dead-ends. I put a "citation needed" on that fact, but I think it should be deleted. Awiseman 16:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Or Cabot Drive in Nashua. I agree on the deletion. 128.220.38.98 22:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Two points. One, the Belgrade, Serbia article lays claim to the "longest dead end street" but also lacks citations. Second, I think the trivia question is garbled a bit here, since it's always been said that Elm St. is the longest MAIN STREET in America that has two dead ends, not just the only street that has two dead ends (which would be kind of ridiculous, since folks here easily found two examples of streets with two dead ends - although Wentworth St. is TINY.) Instead of going deletion-crazy here, let's simply amend this assertion, not delete it entirely, since it's a valuable fact, if noted properly.

And in case anyone doubts the street actually does dead end in both directions, here's a citation from the New Hampshire Union Leader's John Clayton, who knows the city backwards and forwards. ("To some, the notion of a main drag that dead-ends at both ends is emblematic of life here In The City." UL Nov. 21, 2005 - cached) [2] Nhprman 02:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

In fact, I was bold and made the change suggested above. Nhprman 02:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I've categorized anything and everything related to Manchester. Maybe someday I'll visit :) Paul 03:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't a main street need to be called MAIN ST. to qualify here? Or is that pedantic? --BJason 08:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it's just semantics. Elm St. really is *the* MAIN street of the city. I doubt the main streets in other nations are called "Main," either, but they would qualify if they were indeed the main thoroughfare, and the longest. Nhprman ^List 14:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Economy Section

This section seems both sparse and unsubstantiated -- "Economic masterpiece"?

I think this section should be a little bit more statistic related. --nelsonleese 14:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-FU image

We should have a non-fairuse image for the info box. As the fall foliage season approches, I'll try to get one. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 12:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Officer Michael Briggs

Any interest including information about this incident? Or will it not be viewed as encyclopedic in the long run? Open discussion. —Malber (talk • contribs) 21:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

In the long run it may be part of the city's history. As of now, charges have not even been filed against their main suspect. It needs time to develop. Davidp313 02:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I disagree strongly with Davisp313, as Capital Murder charges have been filed against Michael Addison for shooting Briggs. I also think that a couple/few sentences to a paragraph can easily be placed in the article about the shooting and the city's response afterwards. --Assawyer 23:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Just my opinion, but that kind of "breaking news" belongs on WikiNews in the n:Portal:New Hampshire, not here. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I created an article about the shooting if anyones interested. Storm05 18:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics are our friends,

"City Hall Plaza, northern New England's tallest building..." So, how tall is it? cockeyed.com wants to know. --BJason 08:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Either 20 stories[3] or 275 ft[4]. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Promote Manchester

As this article might be perused by future residents of Manchester, I propose adding links and perhaps a sentence or two about business development. There are many organizations that are the life-blood of entrepreneurs. And what about those hundreds of pdfs that I read about the future development of the city? As soon as there is a conclusion, those long term goals should be posted as well. 70.16.208.73 00:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Miche