Talk:Mars Attacks!

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Could someone please tell me how the majority of the section on Independence Day is encyclopedic? If so, please revert the edit --CancerOfJuly

I wrote the majority of that section. Before, the article completely dismissed there being any deliberate relationship, whereas if you look up reviews and discussion of the film both at its release and since, there's a fair amount of speculation or at least puzzlement of what the relationship is. Maybe the tone/framing is wrong and it needs more weasel words, but discussion of this aspect of the film is completely encyclopaedic. --20:42, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Peaceful Martians 2 Spelling of "Mars Attacks" 3 Redirect? 4 Pahrump, Nevada 5 Reviews 6 Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

[edit] Peaceful Martians

From what I remember the Martians only became hostile when they saw the white pidgeons released by some pro-UFO-fanatics at their landing (ironically intended to symbolize peace), which resulted in an instant slaughter.

The Martians therefore weren't inherently hostile, just not very forgiving (when meeting the US president for new peace negotiations, they just killed the entire senate without prior provocation) and destructive. I suppose they just tended to end conflicts with genocide rather than an NAP.

Were they portrayed as hostile at any point prior to the landing disaster? Ashmodai 07:29, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

• I assumed that the circle arm jesture the Martians used was really just them saying "we have your planet surrounded" and not necessairily some sort of greeting.

Were they Walter Pidgeons? I could've sworn they were birds!  :-) Tenebrae 02:43, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Judging from their mean-spiritedness (i.e. a Martian ship going out of its way to topple the Washington Monument onto a troop of boy scouts) and repeated claims of peace even as they gun down humans in large numbers, and their overall glee, I'd say the sadistic little creeps had no intention of playing nice, especially to birds. It's still funny, though. BryanEkers 01:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the whole point is they like toying with people, pretending to be nice and then doing killing them for a laugh. And their message to the earthlings includes the phrase "for the fundamental determination of the cosmos", which doesn't sound very friendly! The Singing Badger 02:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I just watched it again. After the massacre in the desert, the President broadcasts a message of peace. The Martian leader reads the transcript, laughs, and goes back to ogling the centerfold in a captured issue of Playboy. I don't see even the slightest intention of peace from these guys, birds or no birds. Give the bastards a good hard yodeling. BryanEkers 20:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of "Mars Attacks"

There is no exclamation point on the trading-card series Mars Attacks, as seen on the cover card on this page of Norm Saunders' site http://www.normansaunders.com/MrzAtx%2C01.html The exclam pt is only on the movie title. Subsequently, moving entry. — Tenebrae 03:46, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect?

Shouldn't this page simply be a redirect to Mars Attacks! since the page coveres both (!) and without (!)  ?Steve-O 01:28, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd suggest keep Mars Attacks (sans "!") as the primary page since it, too, covers both, and since the source material, the original wellspring of all this, is the trading card series. If the header is Mars Attacks! that you're writing about the movie first, and backtracking to explain it came from the card set, and then you have to explain the card set. It just seems to make sense to start with the source material, and then go on to the spin-offs, IMHO. — Tenebrae 02:42, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Or maybe it'd be better to divide this entry into Mars Attacks (trading cards) and Mars Attacks! (film), a la The Godfather (novel) and The Godfather (film)? — Tenebrae 06:36, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Someone will have to put a looooooooooot of work into the articles to make this a viable option -- otherwise we'll just end up with two stubs. ~CS 01:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pahrump, Nevada

In the movie, the aliens blow up Art Bell's town, after some idiot releases a dove, and the bird flies over the aliens. Martial Law 22:36, 22 March 2006 (UTC) :)

In the starting scene, were the American soliders using M1 Garands, and firing them automatic when the Garands are only semi-auotmatic? Phytos 05:58:36, 29 Novemeber 2006

[edit] Reviews

I changed this from having received "terrible" reviews to "mixed". Rotten Tomatoes' critics section gives this a rotten - granted - but only 53/100 critics gave it thumbs down, the other 47 thumbs up. In my book, this is much more like "mixed". Arild 23:57, 9 October 2006 (CET)

[edit] Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

One paragraph of the article states:

Some have criticized this as being far too similar to another parody of B-movies, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, where the killer tomatoes were also caused to explode when subjected to a particularly bad song.

Actually, in the film, the song causes the tomatoes to shrink, thus allowing the townsfolk to stomp on the tomatoes, destroying them. (Ibaranoff24 18:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC))