Talk:Muhammad Ali's seizure of power
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The real name is Muhammad Ali. This is his given name and the name he is known with in Egypt since his rule until today Mehmet is the Turkish incorrect version of this Arabic name.
- Ahmed Pasha links to a page about a Frenchman who died in 1747, and thus cannot be the Ahmed Pasha who was removed by Egyptians in 1805.
Mehmet Ali is a perfectly acceptable variant of this man's name. He was a Turkish-speaking Ottoman, and Mehmet is the standard Turkish variant of the name Muhammad. Technically speaking, Mehmet Ali was his given name, not Muhammad 'Ali. However, since Ottoman Turkish was written in Arabic script during his lifetime, the entire issue is really historiographic: the name is orthographically identical in documents in both languages. Transliterating the name in accordance with Turkish or Arabic style invokes a political claim of cultural ownership, which may explain why one would feel impelled to say one variant or other is the "real name." In a more serious issue, most if not all of the text of this article appears to have been lifted from another source. The language is highly stylized and slightly archaic, which makes me suspect that it comes from a relatively old translation of a non-English-language source. Can anyone verify the origins of the text, and provide a citation? (Assuming it's even in the public domain now!) --Dgilman 05:16, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's from the 1911 Britannica, and it thus needs a lot of work. For instance most of the Arabic transliterations have been scrambled, and need to be sorted out. - SimonP 13:33, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Apply dates
A lot of dates need to be applied in this article.. (I realise it's a mess)
