Talk:North London Line

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[edit] Electrification

Is it Acton Central or South Action where the trains switch to overhead AC from third-rail DC? Also is the freight spur from Acton South Junction to the Hounslow Loop electrified?

Changeover occurs at Acton Central to/from overhead AC. The freight spur is not electrified.--Seann 17:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.  :)

Minor tweaking needed as Stratford-North Woolwich now closed. Jackiespeel 15:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Why has the North London Line got a combination of overhead and third rail throughout its route? Simply south 15:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Because it was created from a combination of previously existing lines which had been electrified according to different systems.Seann 16:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

A good map to look at is [1]

Why both - well it was originally 4 rail (LUL style) as part of suburban LNWR electrification (started 1913 of Watford DC, WLL, and NLL to Euston and Broad Street). Technology changes have meant the 4th rail is no longer needed (its now like normal 3rd rail south of the river). For just passenger services the NLL didn't need any changes but for freight and empty stock moves (most of the rest of north London is OLE and the NLL access all lines) the OLE is needed. Was done in 1987 at the time of a lot of new and infill electrification, also enables eurostars to move about (bearing in mind the regional eurostar and nightstar plans) as some of the spurs weren't electrified. also until the class 92, there were no dual AC and DC locos. ref for date is [2]

Pickle 14:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Moved some of the history of electrification to the History section to try to focus the sections. It seems quite wordy (as does that whole section) -- perhaps someone with more knowledge could look at? 98ekm 20:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Steady mate - there are no standards for line articles, there is much confusion weather we should be "talking" about the actual track or the services that run over it. Some editors feel passionately that prior operations, tunnel lengths, old stations, etc are a vital component of an article. I'm not really in favour of deleting stuff if your not putting it somewhere else (ie another article). This page hasn't hit the 32kb long warning (which is arguably been superseded) either. I might suggest that you reinstate the data, or set up another page ("history of the north london line" maybe) and use the {{main|title}} tag ..... Pickle 16:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Line Map

I've added a line map; this somewhat duplicates the "Principal Stations" list at the top of the page but hopefully it's easier to see at a glance, and adds the travelcard zones. Anyway, hopefully it's useful!

It's in SVG format (created in Inkscape) so it's easy to edit in future, but it seems that the alignment of the station names gets changed during upload -- does anyone know how to fix it? Js12 15:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure but it looks fine to me. Btw, Gunnersbury and Kew Gardens also interchange with the District Line. Simply south 15:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Good catch - updated. Js12 17:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone fancy doing one of the maps which shows all of the connecting tracks like on the Watford DC Line page? It may be a bit complex! ;-) D-Notice 22:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I plan to have a go at lots of line articles, but am busy with uni work really at the moment. Pickle 13:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)