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This page has been redirected to Orbiter (sim) as it directly implies that Orbiter is a game - which in fact is not true (as stated by the author)

Contents 1 Revert to fix c&p move 2 Vandalism 3 External links 4 Sound 5 Proposal to move to Oribter (sim) 6 Notes 7 New patch released 8 OrbiterWiki & linkspam

[edit] Revert to fix c&p move

I'm going to revert this temporarily to fix the c&p move. --Aqua 05:21, Aug 29, 2004 (UTC)

• Move complete. --Aqua 19:16, Aug 29, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I think these are the ones responsible. They've got a contest on to see who can spam the most. http://www.freeibforums.com/forums/index.php?mforum=Wraithklan&showtopic=143

-Berle (not registered)

I believe this page should stay locked until requested to be unlocked by Martin. The vandles that struck are serial web site defacers, and they will come back in the future to make more attempts.

-BigJimW

I beg to differ. This would mean that probably no one would work on it anymore. Would we be satisfied with it? I do not think so. In my opinion it should be locked for some time. Then we should restart developing it again.

0.39 19:31, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

There has been abuse of the talk page today. The offending person has been blocked.

-MatW, 23rd September 2005 (UTC)

If this sort of vandalism continues, we may want to consider notifying Comcast that one of their subscribers was engaging in behavior contrary to his/her terms of use. -Loren 23:16, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Should the External Links be split into a large collection of links to addon sites + a small collection of other links (official web site, forum, irc, orbiterwiki)? Does anyone like the idea? --Romanski 10:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• I like the idea of subheadings; the external links section is too big right now. -- Ruaraidh-dobson 11:42, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sound

Please let people know this beautiful sim needs the seprate sound plugin to have any audio at all. It is kind of a hidden fact on the wiki and the main orbiter page.

Done. :) The Singing Badger 16:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Just to remark... its also existing in the OrbiterWiki FAQ since a long time.[1] --62.176.239.161 12:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to move to Oribter (sim)

Orbier has been moved to Orbiter (Computer Game). I don't recall any discussion regarding this, I would have though it to be a simulation rather than a game. Espcially considering the quote at the top of the page

This page has been redirected to Orbiter (sim) as it directly implies that Orbiter is a game -
which in fact is not true (as stated by the author)

What do other people think> --Rehnn83 13:35, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

It definitely feels more like a sim than a game to me. --pile0nades^{talk | contribs} 04:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

It is not a game, it's an open-ended simulator. The Singing Badger 11:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Judging by the comments on here I've decided to move the article back to Orbiter (sim) --Rehnn83 16:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notes

This article is maintained by the Orbiter community besides millions of users who are using Wikipedia. --Bigtop 00:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow, based on a whole one comment. Why not call it a 'computer program' or something instead? As there are a strong group for both sim and game. I'd go with the latter.

[edit] New patch released

A new patch has been released - try to improve the page! Bigtop 23:50, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OrbiterWiki & linkspam

I removed OrbiterWiki as per WP:EL's links to avoid: Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors as, whilst I'm a great believer in it, it doesn't have a substantial number of editors.

It's been re-inserted, so someone else obviously like it too, but if it does get removed again, this is why.

Since there are no other entries in the external links section bar the homepage, I think it's probably reasonable.

There are too many links in the addons section, though, so I'm going to prune those to sites that offer a notable and original set of downloads.

Cheers. --BadWolf42 17:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree the number of external links should be cutdown. Of the Links currently present - these are my thoughts.

External Links

Orbiter official website

OrbiterWiki

The Official website IMHO is a must, as for the orbiter wiki - I'm undecided - there are pros and cons. I think it's best left to a community decision.

Addon collections

Orbit Hangar Mods - an Orbiter addon repository

Orbiter Sound Addon

Avsim - large Orbiter addon libraries

Moonport Orbiter site

Many open source addons from the CCCP Team

Meadville Space Center

Astronomy Portal to the Heavens, Deep Sky and Universe

Orbiter Community Links

Project Apollo for Orbiter

Russian page and forum about Orbiter

Virtual United States Space Program (VUSSP) - A virtual space agency that uses Orbiter

Package Orbiter + full addons

Fly Away - Orbiter and simulation news

Go Play In Space, introductory tutorial manual for Orbiter

Virtual Spaceflight - Links, Tutorials, Add-ons & Reviews

CVE-lite progammer's API extension.

There is a case for having no download sites at all. (As they contribute nothing to the article itself). However some could be justified. IMHO - general download sites e.g. Avsim, Orbit Hangar etc... add nothing and they can easily be found from the main Orbiter site or Orbiter Comunity Links. Specific download, such as Project Apollo have merit. One idea which has occured to me is to include them as references rather than external links.(in the section for Orbiter Addons) (They would need to be referenced properly rather than as they are now. Rehnn83, (talk) -- 19:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I can see the point about not linking to external wiki sites, but the Orbiter wiki is possibly the best place to get an idea of what addons are available for Orbiter short of searching through all the different download sites, forums and sourceforge pages. So I'd say it's probably worth including: it has been around for some time and does seem to be policed against spammers and vandals. Mark Grant 22:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Afraid I couldn't disagree more with Rehnn's summary. Orbithangar and AVSim are probably the most useful links since they offer a mulititude of downloads from a dedicated centralised source.

Orbiter Links Compendium, or similar, need not apply.

--BadWolf42 04:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)