Talk:Patna

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In my opinion, one, sentence edit by user Ansukla on 09.04.2005 is not complete. I sent him the following message. This one sentence edit requires to be clarified. Quote hello dear Mr Ansukla - recently, you have added one sentence in the history of Patna. Would u plz let me know the context / clarify the point. Thanks. --Bhadani 09:59, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansukla" Unquote--Bhadani 10:56, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 regular vandalism of this page 2 Copyright violation? 3 GA 4 GA Delisted

[edit] regular vandalism of this page

It is interesting to note that some annonymous users are regularly vandalising this artice. I would request them to contribute something positive, instead of pure nonsense, because, I am sure a person who can use wikipedia and edit MUST be not so foolish. I request all such vandals to have a positive attitude and do something good, instead of wasting their energies on destructive activities. Ok.--Bhadani 04:13, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think in Educational Section We need to add Some information about major IT intitutions providing technical education to about twenty five thousand students in Patna Only. RSJaiswal

[edit] Copyright violation?

I am not sure, but certain portion of the article appears to be almost verbatim copy from the source mentioned below:

quoting from this article

Mauryan Patliputra was replete with multi-storeyed wooden buildings and palaces surrounded by parks and ponds. According to Greek accounts, royal parks were lined with evergreen trees, which neither grew old nor shed their leaves. There were more than 500 towers and there were 64 gates in the city wall, surrounded by wooden palisade with loopholes for the arches. A ditch around the city served the dual purpose of defence as well as sewage disposal. Every street had its water courses serving as house drains that finally emptied into the moat. Any deposit that obstructed the passage was punishable by law. House owners were required to have fire prevention elements and the streets provided with vessels of water and sand, kept ready in thousands.

Emperor Ashoka, the grandson of Chandragupta Maurya, transformed the wooden capital into a stone construction around 273 BC Chinese scholar Fa Hein, who visited India sometime between 400 BC to 15 AD, believed demons were commissioned to erect these massive stone structures, which cannot be human work.

quoting from this source

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A strong sense of imagination is required to recreate the Mauryan Patliputra replete with multistoreyed wooden buildings, palaces surrounded by parks and ponds. If we are to believe the Greek accounts, the royal parks were lined with evergreen trees, which neither grew old nor shed their leaves. The capital city with more than 500 towers and 64 gates was surrounded by wooden palisade with loopholes for the arches. A ditch aroulnd the city served the dual purpose of defence as well as sewage disposal. Every street had its water courses serving as house drains that finally emptied into the moat. Any deposit that obstructed the passage was punishable by law. House owners were also required to have fire prevention elements and so were the streets provided with vessels of water and sand kept ready in thousands.

Transformed To Stone City

It was Ashoka who transformed the wooden capital into a stone construction around 273 B.C. This sudden change prompted Fa Hein, who visited India between 400-15 AD, believe that genni(demons) were commissioned to erect these massive stone structures. Mauryan architecture is one of the least known subjects in Indian history, though Literary references to palace, forts, halls and stupas are aplenty but archaelogical evidences are scarce, Kumrahar site at Patna is associated with the ancient Palace site of Patliputra.

My comments

I will try to re-write these paragraphs. But, I suggest that the editor who has given this edit should do this, as he can do it with his own inputs. Thanks. --Bhadani 15:36, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

It will have to be rewritten. Also we can consider emailing the site and requesting permission to copy text. User:Nichalp/sg 17:51, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for the dealyed response. I have not been surfing for sometime. Incidentally, this text has been taken from The Hindu, not the website you have mentioned, which itself appears to have taken it from the said Hindu article. I just did a quick reword of the same. Hope there is no serious violations caused.

I will try to locate the name of the author, a muslim gentleman, and the date of its publication, most probably early 2001 - someone had forwarded the article to me as a document. I am also trying to involve some more folks into this job - people who would contribute photographs. Thanks

--TV 11:24, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Nice to see your response, surely you are doing fine work. Let us make this article really great. --Bhadani 13:37, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] GA

I'm surprised at this article rated as "Good". It needs a lot of work, and there's no substitute for meeting the WP:FA requirements. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I do agree. In fact, many edits come from time to time which are not encyclopedic at all. I would suggest the editors to be add value instead of deduct the same from the contents. --Bhadani 15:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I just edited a small grammer error. Overall, I think its a good article. -Amit

[edit] GA Delisted

The presense of a {{unreferenced}} tag on this page led me to look further into this article and its compliance with the good article criteria. Unfortunately, the article in its current state no longer meets the criteria of a good article for the following reasons:

• Referencing - The aforementioned tag indicates that some editor(s) on wikipedia are unsatisfied with the level of referencing of the article. I say I agree with them. The article has NO inline citations, lists NO references where the information comes from, and needs MUCH work in this department. See WP:CITE, WP:ATT, WP:RS, and WP:CITET as guidelines to help you do this correctly.
• Images - There is a dead image in the article. This needs to be either removed of replaced with a free-use image.

Please try to improve this article to bring it up to good article standards and one it is done so, please renominate it at the good article candidates page. If you substancially disagree with this delisting, and you feel that this article in its current state was improperly delisted, please bring the issue up at good article review. If you have any questions, please drop a note on my talk page. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 17:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)