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Contents 1 Runebergin tortuista 2 Sources not equal 3 Terve 4 Molotov cocktail 5 Please don't accuse me of 3RR... 6 Soviet partisans 7 Way to much Israeli Proganda 8 Welcome to the Military history WikiProject! 9 Re:Estimates 10 Military history WikiProject coordinator election - vote phase! 11 Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VI - August 2006 12 Finnish Civil War 13 Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Finnish Civil War 14 WikiProject Military history Newsletter - Issue VII - September 2006 15 Re: BF109 16 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VIII - October 2006 17 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict 18 Image Tagging for Image:Finnish SS arm badges.png 19 Grammar 20 DYK 21 Civility 22 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue IX - November 2006 23 Front-page idea 24 Finnish Losses 25 Soviet Military Losses 26 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue X - December 2006 27 Continuation War edit war 28 FCW 29 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XI - January 2007 30 Re small templates 31 WP:MILHIST Coordinator Elections 32 DYK 33 Finlands WW2 losses 34 Location Maps 35 WikiProject Military History elections 36 Thank you for your assistance 37 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XII - February 2007 38 Soviet partisan photo 39 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2007 notiability. 40 WikiProject Military history/Coordinators 41 Re. Salpalinja 42 Bot-assisted new article announcements 43 FCW 44 Maps of Finland in war 45 24.39.181.168 46 Wow, this is hard work!

[edit] Runebergin tortuista

Korjasin väärin käännetyt sanat artikkelista Runeberg's tart. Manteli on englanniksi almond ja rommi rum. JIP | Talk 11:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Kiitos --Pudeo 14:57, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources not equal

Regarding your recent comment at Talk:Soviet partisans, I do agree with you. You may want to check my proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability#Index_of_.27sources_of_dubious_reliability.27_needed.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 19:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, agreed with that. --Pudeo 19:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terve

Kyllä, olen suomalainen. (löytyykö meseä?)

Kurt.

[edit] Molotov cocktail

I reverted the article back to a better version with more content. It just so happened that an image was lost. You're free to put it back in, I was just being careless. Very sorry.

Alexander VII 19:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't accuse me of 3RR...

Either you are very new to WP and don't know what 3RR is (WP:3RR), or this is personal attack. With 2 edits in 24 hours (and in weeks for that matter), 3RR is not even close. -- Grafikm ^(AutoGRAF) 20:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

One revert more isn't "not even close". I hate those revert wars when people add biased content.. --Pudeo 18:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soviet partisans

Hi, may I ask what happened with this edit? How come a big chunk of the article got cut? I believe there is an unfixed bug with some toolbars [1], maybe that was it?

Grafikm ^(AutoGRAF) 22:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I certainly didn't notice that and didn't delete that text. --Pudeo 22:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I had Google spell checker installed and removed it so it probably was it.. --Pudeo 22:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it could be that. -- Grafikm ^(AutoGRAF) 22:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, I had a look at that. I wondered how countries like Kazakhstan and Somalia (with a capital controlled by Al Qaeda) could be reckoned to be better at "Press Freedom" than Russia. And I found "A truly independent press exists in Russia, but Russia’s poor ranking is justified by the censorship of anything to do with the war in Chechnya, several murders and the recent abduction of the Agence France-Presse correspondent in Ingushetia." So nothing to do with the problem you are discussing. And to claim Alex Bakharev is biased, is plain silly and even bordering on defamotory. He recently increased Deng's block. --Pan Gerwazy 21:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Way to much Israeli Proganda

Israeli reports can not be trusted as has been demonstrated by thier claims and high censorship levels.

Do you not know that Israel claims Hezbollah did it and that the UN Secretary-General is racist? By the way the Israeli foreign ministry has asked for volunteers to serf the net and launch a cmpaign to protect Israel. Here is the link.

http://uruknet.info/?p=m25177&hd=0&size=1&l=e

read this on by Wikipedia has an unusually large amount of vandalizing editors deleting facts that are incriminating for Israel...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2289232,00.html

this site is filled with evivence http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

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[edit] Re:Estimates

Hi,

In my version of Khrushchev's memoirs, there is are no estimate whatsoever. Not 270,000, not one million, nothing at all regarding detailed casualties in the Winter War, only vague estimations "lots of thousands" or things like that. And the book was published 1999, so I have no reasons to think it was censored.

Grafikm ^(AutoGRAF) 20:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Finnish Civil War

On the disc. page you mention that the article would need a few new chapters to reach the level of a proper article. What do you exactly mean, what seems to be lacking ?. -- 84.231.165.135

I left a message concerning the GA nomination on the article talk page. Could you stop by and take a look? RelHistBuff 07:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the Barnstar. --Ilummeen 13:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Finnish Civil War

Thanks for the comment, but the nomination has been closed already! :-) Kirill Lokshin 16:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: BF109

Meh, I don't know enough about WWII aerial warfare to say anything intelligent on the topic. My experience, though, is that he'll likely get bored and leave fairly quickly; if he doesn't, a request to WT:MILHIST and WT:WWII should gather enough outside editors to settle things in short order. Kirill Lokshin 18:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

I'm sorry for "screwing" the template. I noticed before that but i didn't know how to fix it. Could you tell me please how to fix it? I tried looking at your edit's diff but I couldn't find any differences. Your help would be appreciated --Nielswik_(talk) 13:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Aha~ no wonder. I couldn't see space in diff! Thanks --Nielswik_(talk) 14:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Grammar

I'm headed to look at the Aimo Lahti page and see if I can't edit the grammar for you. I don't know anything about him, but I'm a good proofreader.

Resonanteye 14:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. --Pudeo (Talk) 14:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I did my best, I took out very very little (one or two phrases that had no relevance and sounded awkward with the grammar) but added a whole lot of "the" and "a". Also I broke a few sentences in order to make reading easier, and added some commas and other punctuation to "smooth out" the text.

Since I don'thave direct knowledge of the topic, it might be good if you checked it to make sure I didn't accidentally change the intended meaning or content of the article in any places. By the way, I found this article really interesting. I've never read anything about those who design weapons before. Resonanteye 14:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On November 20, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aimo Lahti, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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[edit] Civility

Hello, Pudeo. It seems to have been established by Arbitration Committee that you are a sockpuppet of a banned disruptive user. Instead of being grateful that no action has been taken against you as yet, I saw you engage in incivility and call your opponents "wikistalinists". Please take a note that neither neonazism nor Holocaust Denial are acceptable in this project. Further outbursts of incivility may lead to blocks. Best, Ghirla ^-трёп- 08:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, this information that I am supposed to be a sock puppet is new to me. Thanks for noting it to me. Whole "Kven User" is new to me and I haven't even edited articles related to Kvens or so, so I am not familiar with those issues. I have used this account from school networks so I believe it is due to that if it's not a mistake. When I edited from school, the IP had loads of edits. But since I have nothing to do it with, I rather ignore it. Oh and, "I am" not, but I am "suspected" because of my IP at school. Then, where have I engaged in incivility? Yes, I updated that article with a real image but removed it because of some people who adore partisans. Heck, there have been 5 edit wars in that article so I decided it leave so. Then a serious issue: , are you claiming that I am a neonazi and I deny Holocaust? Please show me an edit of mine that I propose neonazism. I find neonazism disgusting and I have never even thought about supporting it. Where the heck have I denied Holocaust? Ridiculous. There is a Finnish saying that you give a stupid answer to stupid accusions and questions, so I'll go ahead: "lol".

By the way, you are saying I have opponents in Wikipedia. Yes, I have seen your, Ghirla and Ipren's "wars" with Polish persons, and Irpen even said that Piotrus is his opponent in some talk page. I find this immature and foolish, please do not drag me into your "opponents"-business. I want to improve Wikipedia and be in a kind community, rather than argue about some city names whether they should be in Polish or Russian.

I demand an explanation, or I consider your message as a 'fooling around' accusation. --Pudeo (Talk) 12:19, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Pudeo, please cool off. I don't accuse you of anything. I provided a diff where you refer to fellow wikipedians as "wikistalinists". This is an ad hominem, personal attacks which is not to be tolerated. I hope there will be no such incivil outbursts in the future. Best, Ghirla ^-трёп- 12:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Front-page idea

By all means. Do you know if there is a page somewhere with advice on how to go about it, word-length etc.?

Congratulations to you and your fellow editors on the FA thing, by the way.

qp10qp 00:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I think we should move this to the article talk; would you object? I don't see anything wrong with your version. Does this remain part of the article or is it a separate thing?

I didn't realise that editors had to apply for an article to be on the front page; I assumed they were just chosen from the pool of articles. What is the application process?

qp10qp 23:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Good work. I made some tiny changes. I don't see why it shouldn't capture the passing readers' interest. qp10qp 16:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish Losses

I got those from Finnish Military Website- I will send link when I am free in 2 hours--Woogie10w 15:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi I reverted again to 95,000 war dead for Finland only because the MOD in Finland lists the names of 95,000 individuals dead in WW2 [2]. I suspect the higher number is due to the fact that wounded may have died in hospital and were not counted by the Army and missing individuals may have been declared dead after the war. --Woogie10w 17:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I made the mistake of changing the number to 95,000 in July without posting the link to the Finnish MOD website, sorry. Maybe you would want to post the link on Finnish Wikipedia for people who are researching family history. I really need to read the Wikipedia articles on the role of Finland in WW2, you guys have been doing a lot of good work on this topic. Best regards --Woogie10w 01:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soviet Military Losses

The Soviets listed 6,885,000 confirmed military war dead not counting MIA, POW deaths and losses of Militia and Partisans. The official statistic of 8,668,000 total military dead includes 1,283,000 additional POW deaths and 500,000 estimated MIA-dead. This is not credible. Soviet POW dead were between 2.5 & 3.0 million based on the consensus of western historians. Take the 6.9 million confirmed war dead add 500,000 missing killed in battle plus 2.5 -3.0 million POW deaths and we come to at least 10 million military war dead not counting the Militia and Partisan deaths. I suspect the official Soviet statistic of 8.7 million dead is understated in order to make the Soviet Army performance look better. What a coincidence that they list Axis losses at 8.6 million. In any case back in May 1965 the Soviet MOD claimed 10 million military war dead. Richard Overy is right when he says that we must view Soviet casualty statistics critically.--Woogie10w 18:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Continuation War edit war

Hi. You are referred in the Talk:Continuation War#Par 2. Where did you get those 9 decisive battles Finns won in the end? --Whiskey 00:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

About the strength, the Soviet divisional structure had 650,000 men at its highest point. The Finnish and German forces are presented in a similar manner, first the operational strength, then the full strength in parenthesis. This discrepancy has been used by propagandists of different nations. You must multiply the numbers with at least by 2 to get the full number of soldiers participating to the theatre, meaning that the full Soviet contingent was something 1,300,000-1,400,000 men at Finnish front (maybe the quarter was against Germans by the Arctis Sea...) The casualty numbers are from Manninen's "Molotovin coctail, Hitlerin sateenvarjo", and I consider them the best available. --Whiskey 02:13, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FCW

Look, I simply look up all articles in Category:Russia and mark them as part of WikiProject Russia. I added the Low-importance parameter, so I absolutely agree that it is not that important for the Russian wiki project. You are however welcome to add the Wikipedia:WikiProject Finland template above the Russia project. Errabee 20:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

FCW is in scope of the Russia project, as it is defined as part of the Russian Revolution. Why are you playing these negative nationalistic games? Try resuscitating the Finland project instead, that would be a positive use of your energy (and mine). BTW, this was your third revert, better be careful. What a lame edit war you are conducting here. Errabee 17:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

You dare question my motives? How about assuming good faith? BTW, I wasn't aware of any competition between WikiProjects; I thought we are all working together to get a better encyclopedia. And in any rate, including your article in the Russian WikiProject only increases the chance of it getting included in the Release Version, so this article will gain from it as well.

And as for you being the contributor and nominator of this article for FA, well congratulations! That still doesn't excuse your behaviour, however. And trying to sollicit help from another editor in Finnish, a language I cannot comprehend, does not work in your favour either. Errabee 17:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I have said time and again that it is part of WikiProject Russia for at least two reasons: a) it is located within the category tree of Category:Russia and b) it is defined as being part of the Russian Revolution of 1917, which is a very big deal for Russian history.

And yes, I've been browsing FA-class articles, because I'm also trying to select candidates for inclusion in the Release Version, which requires an important subject and a high quality. It would be a shame if there were good candidates that never got selected because nobody nominated them.

I can only judge your conversation with Illumeen by seeing my comments quoted by you. So I can only assume you talked about more than just the article being part of the Russian WikiProject. Errabee 18:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps I can quote your edit summary: "rmv Wikiproject Russia. This has relatively less to do with Russia, sure the bolshevik army contributed with 4k-10k men, but Finland was already independent. Atleast when the WPP Russia box is so big!"

So how much has an article got to do with Russia before you allow it to be included in the Russia WikiProject? Who gave you the right to decide about the scope of a WikiProject you're not involved with?

On to the other points you raise in this edit summary: Nobody denies that Finland was already independent; I certainly don't. So what has that to do with FCW being in scope of WikiProject Russia? Battle of Austerlitz is also in scope, because a Russian army under Kutuzov fought there. How big a Russian army/many volunteers would it take before you allow it to be in scope?

And your last point: the template is so big. Yes sorry about that, I only use the tools I've been given. I'm no template wizard, so I don't know how to adjust the size, and frankly, I don't know if that's possible for project templates.

And for your contribution on my talk page: "I don't want any fight, but well, seeing a Russian flag first in the talk page (as well it's the biggest template) makes me confused, Russia?"

This does seem to infer that if another flag came first, presumably the Finnish flag, you wouldn't object (so much). And the remedy for this problem is not removing the Russia WikiProject template, but making sure the Wikipedia:WikiProject Finland is active. I don't mind if a Finland template goes first, for Russia this is only a marginal subject (hence the Low-importance, and if a lower importance rating was possible, it would get that rating).

Your next two edit summaries are not very kind, and do not address the point I made. You didn't do anything with my suggestion about the Finland Project; you just kept hammering that it has nothing to do with Russia. This I found to be offensive.

Even more offensive is your second comment on my talk page: "You yet fail to say, or even comment, why it is a Russian topic." I had already explained twice that all articles in the category tree of Category:Russia are in scope, and that the Russian Revolution is a big deal for Russian history. What more do you want?

Then your last comment on my talk page: "I didn't care that much at first, but after your comment (that I found offensive) I decided keep my valid point." I'm sorry, you didn't care that much? Why on earth did you revert three times before my comment that you found offensive, if you didn't care that much? I'm sorry but I don't believe you. Your actions speak against you. And btw, your point is not valid, as I've proven above.

And when you're in a dispute with a non-Finnish speaking person, it is *very* impolite to speak about that dispute in Finnish with another Finnish editor. I don't care what you're talking about or with whom, it gives the impression you're trying to hide something and it denies me the opportunity to defend my PoV. So I'm sorry if you're offended by it, but I still maintain my claim that you acted out of nationalistic feelings (maybe on a subconscious level) and that this is a very lame edit war (we're talking about the talk page here, and whether it is in scope of the Russia project or not, for crying out loud), that you started and maintained. Errabee 13:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for calming down. I really appreciate that. FCW being part of the WikiProject Sweden is a bit absurd, I admit. But then, FCW isn't part of a big event in the Swedish history, it is not in the category tree of Category:Sweden, so there's no need to include that WikiProject. As a show of good will on my part, I significantly expanded Akseli Gallen-Kallela. Errabee 23:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re small templates

Thanks for the small templates! :) Really an improvement. And best of luck with WikiProject Finland. Errabee 00:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] DYK

On February 5, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kaleva, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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[edit] Finlands WW2 losses

Hi:I got an E mail from your counrtys military archives, here is the text,

Dear Sir,

You have asked some information concerning the number of deaths in
Finnland during the WW II.

Based on the World War II database we have found follofing numbers
concerning the Finnish soldiers (include also the soldiers who died to
the diseases):
year 1939 5681
year 1940 21082
year 1941 27023
year 1942 9743
year 1943 6180
year 1944 22777
year 1945 140

Sincerely Yours

Mikko Karjalainen

M.A.
Archivist
Sota-arkiston Selvityspalvelu <selvityspalvelu@sota-arkisto.fi>
--Woogie10w 17:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Location Maps

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As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish whether the new style maps may be applied as soon as some might become available for countries outside the European continent (or such to depend on future discussions), and also which new version should be applied for which countries.
Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. The subsections on the talk page that had shown David Liuzzo's original maps, now show his most recent design.
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[edit] Thank you for your assistance

Thank you for your assistance so far on the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships. I really appreciate it. Chris 16:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah well, I will do as much as I can on the following days also. But looking to your huge amount of edits on all FIS articles, it's stunning! Really valuable contributions, so keep up the good work! :) --Pudeo (Talk) 16:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Soviet partisan photo

1 photo is good, yes. That was what I was proposing all along. Thank you. --Irpen 19:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, fine with it. --Pudeo (Talk) 19:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2007 notiability.

You can click on the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2007, then at the top where it shows a current sporting event. Click on that and it will lead you to the current event sports section and you can enter the information there. I hope this helps. Chris 17:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re. Salpalinja

Hello and thank your for contacting me. Regarding this move, I strongly recommend that you propose it on WP:RM (follow the instructions there). Your proposal will have to be discussed for five days in a poll on the talk page. If there's consensus to move after this period, the article shall be effectively moved. Regards, Húsönd 19:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot-assisted new article announcements

Terve! I think you might be interested in

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[edit] FCW

Yes I am working on a spoken version :-) it has been a very interesting article.

Cool, very much thanks for the pronunciations! It will help me get a lot closer! SpeakThings:Mellerbeck 16:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maps of Finland in war

I have tried my hand on those maps you asked for, here you have. Chabacano 15:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 24.39.181.168

That user vandalised the Cars (film) article after somebody gave him a last warning. Could you block him? A•N•N•Afoxlover hello! 13:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow, this is hard work!

It's like a second civil war, vandals v the good guys (except we have better weapons)! I expected this, but I am disappointed we've had so few constructive edits that improve the article. The best for me was Jouten's. And this one was intriguing. Lacrimosus may have a point.

I hope you'll be able to talk Ilummeen into changing his decision. I am devastated that my comments and edits had that effect on him. The truth is that no one so far today has found anything to criticise in the article, which considering its complexity is an enormous tribute to Ilummeen's phenomenal work. We can soon restore the article to the point where he is happy with it again, I am sure.

Keep fighting those orcs! qp10qp 14:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, and still many hours to go.. I'd support better protection for main page FAs, IPs should not be able to edit.. And where are the admins? I don't know about Illumeen, perhaps he is a bit dissapointed because of the vandalism and the "last-minute" changes and other confusions because he did a lot of work to the article. But I hope he will stay here, there's no need to leave.. --Pudeo (Talk) 14:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for interupting, but I came arount to congratulate you on your FA and fighting the vandalism on it, when I noticed—in the comment above—you wished for FA protection; this is not done because new users often make their first edits there, and they may be dissapointed if they find they cannot edit the encyclopedia "that anyone can edit". Hope you'll understand. :-) · AO ^Talk 16:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it's good that they can edit then, but this is quite hellish, heh. It would be nice to see more admins checking the edit history though, you can clearly see the persons who are in Wikipedia just to vandalize it.. But good job yourself too, you've also reverted a lot of vandalism there. --Pudeo (Talk) 17:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Hell is for Heroes my friend... Admins don't really have to check the article; just WP:AIV would suffice. Thanks for the compliment; another 60 or so to catch up to you. ;) · AO ^Talk 17:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)