Talk:Randy Rhoads
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[edit] Rhoads' family?
I remember reading that Rhoads had a bass-playing brother, Kelle, and a sister. Is Delores Rhoads still living?--MarshallStack 06:02, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, Kelle is a drummer and Randy's sister's name is Kathy... and yes, Delores is still alive. (She was just at the 25th anniversary memorial). Wolf2112 23:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Who?
Who is "Josh Moses (his son)"? Google seemingly knows nothing of him. ozzmosis 05:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
- Some of the other names listed as influenced by Randy seem a bit dubious too. ozzmosis 15:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Garni
Garni was kicked out of QR. Probably better to make mention of this. stupidkrazykarl 19:28 19 January 2006
- Presumably belongs in the Quiet Riot, or the Garni article, not this one. --ozzmosis 19:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
In re: "proper tone"
He's a rock god the tone should reflect that. Get off your high horse.
- Don't know what this refers to. --ozzmosis 19:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article Structure
I think the main part of this article needs to be broken up. The text is too dense. BenjMartin 13.12 5 April 2006
Half the thing is quotes. Is this a biography or an A&E interview? --209.122.74.2 04:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- I've moved the quotes to their own section below the biography. They were a distraction in the biography and clearly did not belong there. Having said that, I'm not sure the belong in the article at all. --ozzmosis 19:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Quotes
The quotation section should be removed, and placed on wikiquote.org joekiser 01:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Family
Kelle was not his brother it was his best friend who he tought to play the bass. Also he does have a sister.
- You are probably thinking of Kelly Garni. Read this ... --ozzmosis 18:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Influence on Yngwie Malmsteen
Somehow, I cannot imagine Yngwie saying he was influenced by Randy. Is this the author's opinion, or is it documented? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.3.223.215 (talk • contribs).
- It's not impossible given Yngwie's first album was released after Rhoads' death. The Yngwie article only mentions Ritchie Blackmore and Al Di Meola as his main influences though. So perhaps it is just "wishful thinking" from another editor. --ozzmosis 08:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Actually now that I think of it, there is a cover version floating around of Mr Crowley by Yngwie, so it's probably not so far-fetched. --ozzmosis 08:39, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Virtuoso
Not to say Rhoads wasn't an amazing guitarist, but I would beg to differ with someone who calls him a virtuoso. A virtuoso is someone who exceeds in every style of playing, and I have yet to even hear of anything Rhoads has done outside of Classical, Rock, and Blues. Those aren't the only 3 styles of music, people.
- Sorry, there is no such stipulation: A virtuoso (from Italian virtuoso, late Latin virtuosus, latin virtus meaning: skill, manliness, excellence) is an individual who possesses outstanding technical ability at singing or playing a musical instrument. 71.244.86.178 20:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Rhodes is not a virtuoso guitarist. His skill seriously pales when compared to real virtuosos such as [Andrés Segovia] and [Allan Holdsworth]. These two men are true virtuosos. Players like Page, Blackmore, Clapton, and Rhodes, though I enjoy their playing (I'm no hater), they arn't virtuosos. Anyways, virtuoso really is not an objective description, and I don't think it belongs on Wikipedia, unless it is being used in a quote.
- Rhoads was called a guitar virtuoso on magazines, so that´s why this is cited on the article. I agree with you that the term is used loosely today. The standards for a virtuoso are very low today. There were times a virtuoso was needed to know every single style of his instrument, sometimes even the inner-workings of it. Niccolo Paganini was considered the very first violin virtuoso. He had done things that were thought to be impossible on his era. Today, many of his techiniques are common practice for classically trained violinists. So a virtuoso classification is pretty much POV (Lizt would probably tell you that he didn´t thought Beethoven a virtuoso, simply because Lizt´s music was much more difficult to play than Beethoven´s). In the past virtuoso was necessarily a composer too. One had to be a virtuoso both in composition and perfoming. Well, today we get Eric Clapton and Hendrix and call them virtuoso. They pale when compared to the standards of classical music virtuosity, but are considered virtuosi by the general public standards. Virtuosity means, above all, the perfect reproduction of the composer work. The virtuosi were a tool for the composer, which used them to exactly reproduce his intent when writing music. Modern music often isn´t even written!!! A virtuoso is capable to get a score and play it perfectly without studying it. So many studio musicians today are virtuosi, but many famous musicians aren´t. Oh! How long a reply... read the Virtuoso discussion for more insights on this matter. Regards. Loudenvier 21:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Randy most certainly was a virtuoso. Simply listen to the Crazy Train solo, and try to say that he isn't. He will continue to be labelled as such.
I agree he was a virtuoso! Check out the blinding speed on the Tribute album. Mr. Crowley, I Don't Know, The Spotlight Solo, Over The Mountain ect. are very difficult! RandyRhoadsRonnieDio
It doesn't matter, saying that he's a "virtuoso" is POV. 75pickup (talk • contribs)
[edit] Rhoads influenced Adrian Smith & Dave Murray?!
Adrian and Dave never mentioned Randy as their influences,their influences are Gary Moore & dudes from Thin Lizzy not someone like Rhoads.Adrian and Dave started their own career back in 1975.I'm going to delete their names -- brucethegreat
- Although whether Rhoads influenced them or not is arguable, their influences are certainly not what you mentioned. — Prodigenous Zee - 11:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm big fan of Dave and specially Adrian for about 8 years.Adrian lists Jimi Hendrix, Gary Moore and Blackmore and dave names Jimi Hendrix, Robin Trower, and Paul Kossoff as their influences. -- brucethegreat