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Talk:REAL ID Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Talk:REAL ID Act

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This has passed now, hasn't it? - Ta bu shi da yu 03:21, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

God damn it :( --I am not good at running 03:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Technically if the president doesn't sign it....ah, who am I kidding. Until PR gets out about how the Sec of HD is now a God amongst men, we're still royally screwed. FireballX301 04:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Struck Out?

There seems to be little talk in the mainstream press regarding the fact that this part of the act was struck out? Logically, this seems to mean that it's dead for now, any evidence to the contrary? -- Xanadu 16:16, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

I believe the third paragraph of the “Current Status” section is biased. Its reads like a guide for people against the Bill. It should be just the facts. SenorAnderson 23:10, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

If it is too biased for you, cut the crap and leave the facts. It is a very controversial subject.


There is no mention of the Senate bill. Apparently it was passed but this section has failed to give any specifics

[edit] Clay @ OCU

I was considering the last comment when I read the senate passed the bill 100-0. does that seem biased to you?

[edit] THOMSAS @ L.O.C. Too slow!

The thomas registry at the Library of congress is to slow. The revisions shown ae not yet up, and the day Bush signed 1268 to Public Law, there was no revision 6 posted. Still, the actual version that was signed is not there or accessible.


Thomas needs to get things together and get things posted faster so the public can keep up with this stuff. it has been more than a week and the version Bush signed is not yet available so that we can really know which was signed. If anyone has any idea of a way to find this out for sure, please share with us.



grrrrrr.....

[edit] And Australians?

What, are the yanks seriously picking on the aussies now?

No, you guys now get your own visa category (E-3 visa). That means more of you can come over and work here.

Hey, we admire u aussies! atleast most people i know

[edit] Acronym?

A lot of the literature surrounding the REAL ID Act capitalizes all the letters in the bill, implying that it is an abbreviation (like the USA PATRIOT Act). What is the long name of the bill?


Not being familiar with this law, I initially thought the part about changing visa limits for Australians was vandalism. But it's not. See Section 501: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c109:6:./temp/~c10955BdTd:e269084:

12.65.54.195 20:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed text

such as Mexico since their laws consider guilty until proven innocent as per Napoleonic code.

I removed this statement because it is not true, though certainly there are plenty of due process concerns. -- Beland 20:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More information needed

Changing visa limits for temporary workers, nurses, and Australians.

That topic isn't covered in the article. Any details?

[edit] The term States

The Term States Refers to the 50 States,D.C, Puerto Rico ,USVI,Guam,American Samoa, Nothern Mariana Islands and Trust Territories from the pacific.

National identification (ID) cards are on the way. Starting in 2008, if you live or work in the U.S., or any U.S. territory, including Puerto Rico, you will be required to carry a federally approved national ID card. That is, U.S. citizens will need the national ID to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service.

In February, Congress approved a Republican-backed measure compelling states and U.S. territories to issue ID cards and passports with radio frequency identification (RFID) chips embedded in them by no later than 2008. The U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved an $82 billion military spending bill that will, in part, create federally approved ID cards for all U.S. citizens and permanent residents.

"All states and U.S. possessions, including Puerto Rico, will have to comply with the national ID card requirement. If you want to get into a federal building, on a train or airplane, or even receive your Social Security check, you will need this identification," explained Eduardo Bhatia, executive director of the Puerto Rico Federal Affairs Administration.

wow... you are entirely wrong... i guess you didn't read the article

[edit] Act of Passage

According to what I can glean from Thomas, the REAL ID act was not a rider. It was inserted into the conference report for HR 1268.


It was actually rejected three separate times by the U.S. Senate, and was only passed because it was added to a larger bill containing disaster relief and funding for Iraq.

I think the good citizens of this country, liberals and conservatives alike, should be very concerned with the direction of the step this REAL ID is taking.

[edit] US Domestic Air Travel without "Real ID" complaint ID

As an ANON visitor I wish to remind those that state that failure to carry an "approved" ID would prevent domestic air travel by carriers of non-approved IDs that a US or any foreign passport would constitute valid ID for US domestic air travel. I *always* carry my US Passport for domestic air travel as the TSA agent need not know anything more about me than I am a US citizen and am identified as documented.

[edit] While it may not be "bias"...

...the links section contains some links whose description alone makes their legitimacy HIGHLY suspect. 68.39.174.238 20:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Real id act

 Here is a web site to help cancle this bill out....This is one more step of big brother getting bigger... Please sign up today

http://www.nonationalid.com/TakeAction.aspx —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.51.73.159 (talk) 14:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

Oh my: "the National ID is leading us into the prophesied world government and its mark of the beast system." I'm sure you can come up with a more reputable anti-Real ID site than that... Offshore1 16:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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