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The picture of the Tappan Zee Bridge is mislabeled. The high superstructure is on the eastern side (Westchester County). The lower, curving section, from which the picture is taken, is on the western side (Rockland County).

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[edit] Inferiority complex

I removed the following contribution by an anon from the Geography section:

Rockland County is thought to have an inferiority complex to the more prestigious and famous parts of the New York Metropolitan Area, particularly Westchester, New York City, and Long Island, who in turn often snub Rockland by excluding the county from the region and even going so far as to claim Rockland is part of Upstate New York, which many in New York interpret to be a powerful put-down.

How does a county have an inferiority complex? Mwanner 18:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

While I don't think that belongs in an encyclopedia, as a native Rocklander I have to say that the county may indeed have an inferiority complex. It's a question of geographic identity, whether the county is more connected to New York City (as many Rocklanders see it) or whether it belongs with the rest of Upstate New York (and all the connotations and stereotypes that would go along with that association). What can I say? Rockland is a funny place that way.  :: Salvo (talk) 12:11, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

If you are a native Rocklander you cannot deny an unspoken feeling of resentment that it sometimes gets treated as a second-class citizen when compared to other parts of the Metro area. Also, people who aren't from the tri-state area always have to be explained where Rockland is. It's happened to every Rockland native at least once. It weird having to explain to everyone in detail where your home county is, even though it's just around 3 miles away from NYC's borders. Rockland is indeed a very strange place in that regard. It's sort of like being Prince Charles' brother, he's there but nobody knows who he is.

I sometimes feel resentful that we get treated as second-class citizens (Thanks for... redistricting Ben Gilman out of office, renaming the Malcolm Wilson TZB after some politico from Westchester, and making us pay an MTA tax, but getting relatively nothin' in return...), but I don't think that's the same as having an inferiority complex. I don't get angry at people considering us upstate, after all we are genuinely upstate (as in a direction), relative to The City. I'll take that over Lawn Guy Land. As for directions, I usually explain it, "You know where Westchester is? We hold up the west side of the Tappan Zee Bridge so cars don't go plunging into the river." (And do we get thanks for that??) -HiFiGuy 00:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC) (Suffern)

I agree that there is a difference between resentment of being treated like a second-class citizen and having an inferiority complex. It is the former, and not the latter.

Disagree. I too am a native of Rockland and never got the fealing that there were any ties to New York City. Thpugh I have heard many from the city refer to it as upstate it is far from upstate as well. Places like Utica and Syracuse and Elmira are "Upstate". I think of Rockland as place all its own. Larquitte 16:56, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adjacent Counties

Taking the hint from the notice at the top of this page, I swapped the Adjacent Counties box, done up in HTML, for something more along the lines of what's suggested at the WikiProject U.S. Counties page. (Yes, if you ask Mapquest to zoom in on the Bear Mountain Bridge, you can see that Rockland has a border with Putnam, albeit it's pretty short and over water.) Actually, if you visit that page, it has some good suggestions for what might appear on this page. (For example, business and industry--we've got the second largest mall in the US of A (in terms of total floor space, not leasable area) here.) -HiFiGuy 01:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harriman State Park

However, when the State of New York tried to relocate Sing Sing Prison to Bear Mountain in 1909, some of the wealthy businessmen who had made homes in the area, led by Union Pacific Railroad president E. H. Harriman, donated land as well as large sums of money for the purchase of properties in the area of Bear Mountain.

Was E.H. Harriman really interested in creating the state park (to the point of "leading the effort"), or was this effort led by his widow Mary Williamson Averell, who decided to leave $1 million and 10,000 acres after his death? I just want to give credit where credit is due... -HiFiGuy 21:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Letchworth Village

I removed the Letchworth Village entry under "hamlets" as Letchworth Village was a state institution run by the New York State Office of Mental Retardation and Developmental Disabilities. I don't think it ever was a census designated place, nor did it have residents, other than the consumers housed there, nor any stores, or "things to do/see" (even the Patriot Hills Golf Course carved out of the north side of Letchworth considers themselves "Stony Point.") Furthermore, it is/was served by the "Thiells" post office. For these reasons, I don't think anyone would consider themselves as living in the "hamlet of Letchworth Village." -HiFiGuy 06:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gateway?

I don't think I've ever known of Rockland as "The Gateway to the Hudson River Valley," and neither does the web (aside from articles using Wikipedia content), so I removed this sentence. -HiFiGuy 20:27, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] trivia about a town in a game,was deleted

i made a trivia section and said that in a video game called suikoden there is a place called rockland, that In the video game called suikoden there is a town called rockland,all of the buildings in the town are made out of rocks. but someone got rid of it, i just want to know why, it's a nice thing to know( i didn't even know there was a place in real life called rockland until a few years ago, i always knew about suikoden's rockland.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hotspot (talkcontribs) 15:38, 22 January 2007.

I always think it's interesting when we find something that links a thing in a game to something in the real world, so I can definitely imagine your enthusiasm when you found this. Rockland County isn't the only place with this name: check out the page for Rockland to see a list. The problem is that the Rockland in the game doesn't really have anything specifically to do with Rockland County in New York State. If it did, then it would definitely be something that would belong on the Wikipedia page for the county. If you can show that there is a link, other than the name, between the two, then it can be added, with the appropriate citations. Hope this helps -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 16:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

okay i see now, thanks for telling me. hotspot

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