Category talk:Roman Catholics
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[edit] Category Usefulness?
So something like one in 6 biographies in Wikipedia will appear here? – Kaihsu 18:02, 2004 Nov 13 (UTC)
This is a ridiculous category. What does it take to be categorized here? Just baptism? --Saforrest 03:28, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)
And it shows again anglocentrism of en.wikipedia : such a list should include nearly all French, Spanish, Italian, etc. personalities before XXth century. Where are Bossuet, Claudel, Cervantes, most of the kings, writers, etc. of those countries with catholic tradition ? gbog 18:14, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)
- I agree this category is silly. And unmaintainable. Does anyone know how to start a CFD process? 23skidoo 30 June 2005 21:35 (UTC)
- Categories for deletion Well, you start there...
- I have to agree with all of the above ("ridiculous", "unmaintainable", etc). As noted, if this category were to be correctly applied, it would capture an incredibly wide net of bios. This type of generalist categorisation is not appropriate - consider in comparison to a (notional) category for "Left-handed people" or (even worse) "White people"! (How ridiculous would that be?) Per User:Eoghanacht below, unless the categorisation is specifically relevant to a persons life/work/focus, then blanket categorising anyone who's been baptised is beyond useless.Guliolopez 03:09, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes I agree too, categories of people based on religion (apart if its relevant to their work) are irrelevant, same thing for sexual preferences --Khalid hassani 14:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Manner of Use
I do not think this category is ridiculous, just perhaps prone to misuse. It is very useful as a root for logical subcategories such as clergy, theologians, monks, notable laity, saints, etc. Yes, it is seems silly to add a link to this main category to biographies for people who were/are Catholics, but who are not notable for reasons associated with religion. But misuse in some instances should not lead to deletion of the category as a whole. My 2 cents. --Eoghanacht 14:18, 2005 July 28 (UTC)
- I think this category is fairly useless, unless it is limited to people of "religous importance". We could easily create a "meat-eater's" category and a "blondes" category, but they gain us nothing. So the question is, how does one define "notable for reasons associated with religion"? Turnstep 13:01, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
I doubt I would place an individual in this main category. Again, its main use should be as a home for subcategories, for example maybe one for "Catholic artists." As for my concept of notability, I will pose this hypothetical example: I would not include a landscape painter who happened to be a devout Catholic in that subcategory, but I would include someone who started an artistic movement that sought to represent contemporary theological developments or mystical movements through paintings. Another example: if there is a category for "Catholic politicians," I would include JFK because he was notable for being the first R.C. American president. I would not include Henry IV as his religion does not seriously contribute to why he is worthy of a wikipedia entry. — Eoghanacht talk 13:27, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Subcategory for Catholics who repudiated the Church
Do we need a subcategory for Catholics who have repudiated the Church? By that I mean making a declaration orally or in writing that although being baptized into the Church, they reject the Church, hold the Church in contempt, etc. in a manner that is not disputed and not limited to one teaching (i.e. abortion, remarriage after divorce, etc.) patsw 16:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No membership lists
I thought that the RCC keeps no membership lists and that the only way to leave the church is by excommunication for e.g. heresy or apostasy or schisma. In others words, everyone who was born in a Roman Catholic family and was baptized is still a member, even if s/he became president of an atheist society, unless formally excommunicated which happens only rarely. Please check de:Kirchenaustritt for details. The policy of the RCC makes maintaining this category very difficult. May be we should make a category for category:Practicing Roman Catholics (both living and dead). I mean, there is a huge difference between lapsed catholics who have affiliated with other religious groups and practicing catholics who advocate their faith. Andries 10:04, 21 May 2006 (UTC) (amended)
[edit] Eastern-Rite Catholics
Shouldn't they go under Category:Catholics rather than this cat? Kevlar67 03:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
