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"Roman Catholic Church" is not inaccurate, as it refers to the "Holy Roman Church" or that part of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, which is only one (but the biggest) of the 20-odd churches which owe allegiance to the Roman Pontiff. It used to be distinguished by following a Latin rite and liturgy, in distiction to some 20 other rites (Marionite, Greek, etc) - all faithfully owing allegiance to Rome (but also having their own structure, canon law, etc - allowing their priests to marry for example). (They cause the Catholic Church some problems when they emigrate to America and want to keep their own, legitemate Catholic rite). These in turn are distinct from similar rite churches, which do not acknowledge Roman primacy - the Orthodox Churches, for example - but which Rome still considers to be part of the Catholic Church, if separated. Finally, these latter are to be distinguished from other "ecclesial communities" (ie Protestants and others) that nowadays Rome keeps quiet about, to avoid giving offence. Confusing? Easier to say, as has always been the case the "Roman Catholic Church", which has the benefit of being strictly accurate as regards the Catholics in Scotland.


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  1. From its content, shouldn't this article be called Catholicism in Scotland? Catholic Church in Scotland sounds like it should be only be about the institution, not about the faith in general. So, of example, you'd expect to see quite a lot about sectarian issues in a "Catholicism..." article, but much less in a "Catholic Church..." article. I'd argue there should be both articles (there's plenty of interesting things to say about the church - its organisational structure, list of leaders, and details of its education both for the clergy and for laychildren).
  2. The sentence "One of the issues it has had to face is sectarianism, though this is now largely restricted to education" could use something of a makeover. I think this conflates two things: practices in the past which limited education for catholics, and the modern practice of RC primary and high schools. The difference being that the former was done to catholics, the latter done by them (I appreciate in practice it's not quite as simple as that, but the sentence could be taken to mean that catholics are excluded from mainstream schools). We are, undoubtedly, deficient in our handling of catholic education in Scotland, with only a few lines in Education in Scotland to speak of (and no mention, I think anywhere, of private RC schools). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I concur. But I think that in general this new article is to be very warmly welcomed as a fine start. Thank you!--Mais oui! 18:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whitby

The text reads: St Columba's withdrawal to Iona
should it be: Coleman's withdrawl to Innis Boffin
?? ClemMcGann 20:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

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