User talk:RustySpear

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Contents 1 Dutch literature 2 Find-A-Grave links 3 Arthur Godfrey Peuchen 4 Find-A-Grave links again 5 Thanks!

[edit] Dutch literature

I guess you added much text to the article Dutch literature. I'd like to know which are the sources for this text. Alx-pl D 19:39, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I just wanted to know how much reorganization the article requires. Alx-pl D 16:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Find-A-Grave links

It seems to me that the hundreds of Find-A-Grave links you are adding are basically spam. Could you tell me why you are doing this? -- Mwanner | Talk 15:19, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. Well, I guess I can't argue with that! Sorry, I've been chasing down a lot of spam ext refs lately, so when I see a user adding the same site repeatedly, I tend to assume the worst. Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 20:59, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Arthur Godfrey Peuchen

Thanks for the feedback - greatly appreciated! As for the source, take a look at the Encyclopedia Titanica entry on Peuchen. I've always thought the story of Lifeboat 6 was the most interesting, and I didn't realize Peuchen's part in it until I jumped into editing this entry. Once I found out, I felt I couldn't not add the story. I left out part of Peuchen's later activities as manager of a lumber company, which you may feel warrants inclusion somewhere. Ciao! ddlamb 03:01, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Find-A-Grave links again

I've reviewed the find-a-grave links you're adding and the Wikiproject you state that they are related to. I believe that the links are inappropriate and should be removed based on WP:EL, and I while I see the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles regarding the use of find-a-grave to identify missing articles, I do not see where there has been discussion or a consensus to add the links to hundreds of biographical articles. There does appear to be some support for adding links to newly created articles that owe their existence to the find-a-grave list, a usage that I would not oppose.

I would like to foster some broader discussion and direct your attention to the note to that effect I have placed at WP:AN/I and also at Wikipedia talk:Find-A-Grave famous people.

Finally, could you please state for the record whether or not you are affiliated with the findagrave.com web site in some way?

Thanks

The Uninvited Co., Inc. 16:28, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

While I have commented further on the project talk page, I just want you to know personally that not everyone agrees with UninvitedCompany. For one, I believe that the link is very appropriate as an External link here for every any persons that are listed at Find A Grave. They are IMO just as useful as IMBD and contribute discussion in a similar way. I am sorry to see that you have removed this as your current project and would hope that after some consensus is gained that you will resume your effort. Doc 15:51, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I apologize for becoming overcritical of your effort. I see a great deal of link spam and am perhaps too quick to question the motives of any campaign that involves bulk addition of links. The important thing to me is to retain the neutrality and fairness of the project and avoid supporting any one external web site more than others of equal value. The difficulty in this is that we do have to make a value judgement concerning every link we add. I hope that you'll stay engaged in the ongoing discussion regarding these links and, for that matter, other aspects of the biographical articles where they are used. Best regards, The Uninvited Co., Inc. 16:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

When I have a few minutes more (perhaps later tonight), I will respond to your specific questions on Wikipedia talk:Find-A-Grave famous people if no one beats me to it, but for now suffice it to say that I personally think your activity was, on the whole, a good thing. UninvitedCompany's paragraph right above this one describes very well why some editors may have an initial reaction when they see a link to one site on dozens or sometimes hundreds of articles. I recently found a person who had added a link to every Wikipedia article on an NBA player (around 500 articles), linking users to a fantasy basketball site that provided up-to-date detailed game statistics on the individual player. In that case, there were other sources available for the same information and to add a link to that one site on every NBA player's article just didn't feel right. Other editors may disagree with me, but I called in the troops and all of the links were removed. In this case, I don't feel that way. -- DS1953 23:37, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Please don't pull out of Wikipedia:Find-A-Grave famous people. What you were doing was fine. It was just an overreaction by User:UninvitedCompany. Feel free to continue as you were. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-12-9 06:07

At the risk of repeating myself, please take this as a second to Brian's vote of confidence. Your efforts with linking the Find A Grave entries are appreciated and I hope that you will continue with that effort. Doc 17:45, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Glad to see that you are 'back on board' as a future project. Doc 03:31, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the rewrite of the Stewart McPherson article! It looks much better. --Awiseman 00:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)