Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/April 24
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[edit] Remembrance Day
Armenian Genocide is a controversial topic. Whether the totality of events that includes the events of April 24 1915 can be called genocide is not obvious. IMHO putting this date as Rememberance day without referring to who recognizes this as rememberance day would be an endorsement and taking sides on a political issue and hence against NPoV policy of Wikipedia. ato 08:26, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] 1915 - Armenian Genocide
This item was removed to avoid featuring the Armenian Genocide article on the MainPage while it has an ongoing {{dispute}}. -- PFHLai 20:56, 2005 Apr 16 (UTC)
- Articles with disputes/NPOV have been linked from the Main Page on numerous occasions and the genocide is most definitely important enough to be included on the main list. To avoid POV or other disputes, instead of stating that the genocide "occured" or "began" on that day, the text shoud say that it is "commemorated" or "observed" on that day (optionally "by Armenians" can be appended), which is an undisputed fact. While the fact whether it was a "genocide" is disputed, "Armenian genocide" is the most common term used to reference the event, thus is appropriate to use. --Aramգուտանգ 06:57, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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- Yes, Aram, the event is definitely important enough to be included, but the page is not ready to be featured or showcased in the 'Selected Anniversaries' section on the MainPage. Poorly formatted pages, stubs, or any pages with an ongoing dispute, etc. have been linked on the MainPage on numerous occasions, but they really should be avoided. For a list of significant events on this day in history, please see April 24. The Armenian Genocide is listed there. If you are familiar with the topic, please help 'fix up' the Armenian Genocide page. Hopefully, we can feature this page next year. Thanks. -- PFHLai 22:00, 2005 Apr 24 (UTC)
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- Glad to see the dispute is over. :-) If there is a separate page for the holiday, we can put that up, too, moving Armenian Genocide down as one of five events. Maybe later .... -- PFHLai 01:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, I've changed the name of the day to "Genocide Remembrance Day". That's the wording used on http://www.armeniadiaspora.com/travel/holidays.html, a webpage linked from http://www.armeniaforeignministry.com, so I assume that's the official English name. Hope I'm correct. -- PFHLai 01:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- Just started the Genocide Remembrance Day stub. Feel free to expand it. -- PFHLai 01:37, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- sigh... the Armenian Genocide page is tagged for disputes, again .... -- PFHLai 05:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, at least it's not POV-tagged, it's just protected. I don't think we should refrain from linking to protected articles from the main page, it might make it hard to mention, say, George W. Bush at times. In any case, it looks like the genocide article is about to undergo another iteration in the vicious Wiki-cycle controvesial articles go through (someone claims an article is POV -> edit war erupts -> rigorous discussion ensues -> article gets revamped -> neither side is too happy about the result [i.e. concensus is achieved] -> dispute dies down -> some time later, someone new comes along and screams about how POV the article is and tries to rewrite it -> process starts all over again) (I wonder, is there an article in the Wikipedia namespace about the cycle?). Linking to the non-controversial Genocide Remembrance Day looks like the best way to go. --Aramգուտանգ 07:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- sigh... the Armenian Genocide page is tagged for disputes, again .... -- PFHLai 05:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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