Talk:Socratic dialogue
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[edit] Examples of Socratic Dialogues
Is there any guideline on which examples are linked? Socratic dialogues such as Charmides that are listed under Plato's dialogues aren't linked here. 67.176.177.166 20:57, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Previous Discussion
More familiar as "Socratic dialogue" which might be a less pretentious title in the English-language Wikipedia. Wetman 07:30, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I agree: this looks ridiculous. --Jpbrenna 19:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Voting
- Support Socratic dialogue is almost never referred to as Sokratikoi logoi in English (in fact, I have never seen this usage before). In Modern Greek, it is referred to in the singular; a Greek Google produces zero hits for the plural. Googling in English shows a large tilt toward the singular as well. --Jpbrenna 20:39, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- Support The place for the Greek is in parentheses after the bolded name (Sokratikoi logoi). If there are shades of meaning in the original that are not well rendered in the familiar English of the title, that's always worth exploring. Many Wikipedia articles have a similar contour. --Wetman 22:02, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- Support. Gene Nygaard 09:20, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Move is done! Talrias (t | e | c) 10:53, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Sokratikoi logoi
In antiquity, the genre is always refered to in the plural (Sokratikoi logoi Socratic conversations/speeches). Aristotle's Poetics would be the locus classicus.
In English language classical and philosophical scholarship, Sokratikoi logoi is overtaking Socratic dialogue in technical genre discussions. I think it's to distinguish the ancient genre from looser applications of the term.
Similarly, "valediction" has been entirely replaced by "propemptikon" in the discussion of good-bye poems.
Whether Modern or Ancient Greek usage should be given would be a matter of dispute for Modern Greeks, but I don't think it would be for anyone else.
[edit] Modern dialogues
Should modern examples, like the one linked from the article on Bartemius Crouch, be mentioned? Or is that something different altogether? 129.7.254.33 00:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
