Talk:Somerville, Massachusetts
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[edit] History
Should political history of Somerville be included in the 'History' section. While the first Democratic mayor is a significant event, what about other political firsts ? Seems to me that theres too much politicalizing in the Somerville entry.
Additionally - the anti-Irish sentiments were endemic at the time, not just to Somerville.
Mr. Grace 21:31, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Moved political history of Somerville to a new stub page. Perhaps someone will/can add to it.
Mr. Grace 22:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Population Density
On the page that lists north American Cities by population density, Somerville comes second. Central Falls, RI, is fifth on the list, and it is stated on the city's page that Central Falls is indeed the fifth densest city in the United States. This claim is also made of Somersville. Clearly, one page is wrong. Please help me clear this up. Daly 21:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
If the city's population is 77,478, how can it possibly be the fifth densest city with population under 50,000?
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Changed it from 50K to 100K and added cities in the under 100K list above it.
I'd love to find the datasets which I once had that had the area and population info. I calculated density at that time. It seems correct at this time to me, but I'd love to put up a web page with the analysis.
Mr. Grace 20:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC) 22:48 UTC 03 November 2006
It is the 5th densest over 50k:
http://www.demographia.com/db-2000city50kdens.htm
[edit] Hill Links
Someone had made links out of the names of the hills of Somerville. However, two of them were red links, two of them (Cobble Hill and Prospect Hill) lead to pages about unrelated neighborhoods, two (Spring Hill and Walnut Hill) lead to disambiguation pages that don't include the Somerville locations, and Winter Hill leads to a disambiguation page that does include Winter Hill, Somerville, Massachusetts. I've changed the one useful one to the non-ambiguous page and de-linked the rest. DenisMoskowitz 20:47, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Somerville Museum note
- The Somerville Museum is one hidden local treasure for discovering Somerville's roots, in a beautiful building run by volunteers, at 1 Westwood Rd on the corner with Central St. Call 617-666-9810 for information on the latest historical and artistic exhibits.
I moved this fact to Wikitravel, since it is more touristy than encyclopedic. -- Beland 14:43, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More about the seven hills
First of all, I've been told that two of the seven hills were radically flattened to steal earth to fill in the marsh that became the Back Bay. I don't know which hills those were. I also can't cite my source, but I know there's a book about how the Back Bay became the Back Bay.
Second, there's another city with seven hills, which is Rome, Italy. I've been told that Rome and Somerville have a "sister city" arrangement, but I can't find any evidence of this on the internet.
Since I can't cite either of these things I've left them off, but maybe somebody else knows sources for these. --Dbackeberg
[edit] Way too much emphasis on crime
Crime is only a minor problem anywhere in Somerville. This article puts way too much emphasis on an unimportant topic. ---
- I lived in East Somerville. In East Somerville - crime was not a minor problem,
but I agree, there's too much emphasis on crime. I suspect it's because we're proud of what we have had to deal with.
When I lived in Somerville - I was only aware of the Winter Hill and MS13 gang. The reference to five gangs probably should be removed unless it can be further documented.
kb1cvh 23:23 UTC Nov 03 2006
I've added some links to documentation about the crime issues with MS13 in East Somerville. I was living a block from the Dunkin Donuts and knew the girls that were raped. However, MS13 is an international gang. East Boston, Los Angeles, and many other communities have issues with them also. East Somerville and East Cambridge and East Boston see new Americans arriving constantly. There are some bad lots amoung them, while most are fine people.
Do we truly need to highlight the criminal issues that we've dealt with, which aren't truly unique and special to Somerville ? Remember, this is a globally viewable site. I'm updating this from California.
I love Somerville.
Mr. Grace 21:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
The entire paragraph starting with "Mystic Projects" is dubious and probably should go away. The Clarendon Hill Towers are not "close by" the Mystic development; in fact they are nowhere near each other. Ron Newman 23:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] George Dilboy
Why not include George Dilboy among the famous people of Somerville? Read his page and you will see that was the first Greek American to be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, was cited by General Pershing as one of the 10 greatest heroes of WWI, and was honored by three US presidents. And he has a field named after him in Somerville. I think that merits a mention here, especially compared to the other folks on this list.Notmyrealname 04:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Dilboy wasn't born in Somerville. I'm adding a "notable residents" section. -- Akb4 14:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Map request
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It is requested that a map or maps be included in this article to improve its quality. Wikipedians in Massachusetts may be able to help! |
It would be neat to have maps to show:
- The current features, such as major roads and squares.
- Borders with surrounding present-day municipalities and nearby features in those communities.
- The original shoreline showing Charlestown Neck.
-- Beland 23:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV - Demographics
I tagged the last paragraph of Demographics with NPOV because it reads more like a "letter to the editor" than an unbiased look at town. I am not from Somerville, so I wouldn't attempt to rewrite it. I think some of the actual facts could be left if they were verified, but some of the ideas (like: people "ignoring problems of working-class families such as drugs, gang violence, and suicides...") need to be either quantified or removed. Anyone from Somerville like to take a shot at cleaning up this section?--Dalmatian Mommy 04:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
