Talk:Space Jockey (Alien)
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- In the early days this article used to exist along with Space Jockey (short story) at Space Jockey. So both of these articles share their early page history. That history is located at Talk:Space Jockey (alien species)/Early page history.--Commander Keane 12:59, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
It should be noted that the article contradicts the information contained within the article on the Derelict. In the latter, the argument is rather convincingly made, along with corresponding references to pre-production storyboarding that the eggs on LV-426 are contained within a cave, seperate from the Space Jockey ship. Much of this article, and the inferences it makes, are premissed on the notion that the eggs are contained within a cargo bay onboard the ship. Obviously this makes a difference as to whether the SJ visited the planet with the eggs on board or whether it fell victim to the Xenomorphs after the crash. Alternatively the Alien that hatched from the pilot could have ultimately been the one to colonise the cave, but in any event it's bad form for an encyclopedia to argue for two mutually exclusive positions.
I removed the statement that Space Jockeys once ruled the universe. Initially my intent was just to move it in order to clarify that sentence (the sentence was somewhat ambiguous about whether the Space Jockeys or the Xenomorphs were supposed to have once ruled the universe) but I decided to leave it out for the time being until someone can come forward with a reference to support it. I'm relatively certain it's not in the Aliens canon, so if that idea comes from a comic or video game (or simply fan speculation) it should be noted as such. Kafziel 19:32, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Never mind. This article has passed beyond ridiculous, and it's just not important enough to me to waste my time fighting with all of these anonymous editors and asking for sources for all this nonsense. The grammar is terrible, the references are nonexistent... I give up. Kafziel 19:49, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, there's a lot of unreferenced stuff in here, and things being written as if Space Jockeys were "real". I'll take a crack at it too. Bryan 19:38, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Do we really need the "timeline" section? I don't really see how three dates constitutes a timeline, and two out of the three listed aren't even canonical. The last one doesn't even make sense in the context of the article. (Diplomacy? Why was there an attempt at diplomacy? Since when are they at odds with humanity? What happened because the diplomacy failed?) I'm removing the timeline section because it sucks. If anyone is furious about it, feel free to revert me. If you do, though, please try to improve it. Kafziel 05:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] canonicity of Original Sin
The new novel Aliens Original Sin has as many continuity errors as any novel that came before it and cannot be considered canon. The prologue establishes that the Betty has landed on a beach in New Zealand which contradicts the ending of Alien Resurrection Special Edition, which shows the Betty landing near the ruins of Paris. At one point in the novel Ripley says she can quote Ash's description of the alien word for word but the quote she gives is from an old version of the Alien script and isn't what he said in the actual movie. The novel picks up several years after Alien Resurrection with Riplay, Call, Johner, Vriess and several new crewmembers are on some kind of crusade to fight aliens throughout the galaxy and fight some big conspiracy. No motivation is given for why these characters would willingly risk their lives and there's no way that a bunch of pirates who don't care about anyone would risk their lives to fight aliens and rescue colonists like the Colonial Marines did. Simoni is shocked when Ripley tells him that the Nostromo crew encountered evidence of intelligent alien life (the Space Jockey). This is contradicted by the novel Predator Forever Midnight which establishes that intelligent aliens were known about centuries earlier.
