Talk:Springfield's state
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I wasn't 100% about the state name; '"North Tacoma" Simpsons State' gets slightly more Google hits than '"North Takoma" Simpsons State', but if anyone is sure the title is North Takoma, feel free to move the article. smurrayinchester(Penny for the Guy?), (The Guy) 18:40, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Ummm....
David Silverman was joking when he said Springfield is in "North Takoma". I would advise making a new article called "Springfield's state" or "The state in which Springfield is located" for all information relating to the state, as it would be more accurate. Rubber cat 04:15, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
- Fair enough; should I perhaps move the article? smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 10:50, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Ogdenville
Didn't one episode show Ogdenville being in another state, because they took the "Highway to another state"?
[edit] Didn't McClure say the State?
Didn't Troy McClure say during the Behind the Laughter episode that the Simspons lived in Kentucky?
the announcer did say this, but alot of the geography would not match
Yes, he said that the Simpsons lived in Kentucky... 81.203.141.80 23:38, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
The "Behind the Laughter" episode states that they are a Kentuckian family. However, the episode is considered to be non-canon, so the statement wouldn't be verifiable. Iwhaiwnfi 19:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
There are two diffrent versions of that statement. During the inital broadcast it was stated as northern Kentucky, but during the second airing it was stated they were from Missouri. Anyway, the Capitol City Goofball definitivley stated theirs is a northern state, where as the aforementioned states are southern, though Kentucky did not secede during the Civil War.
- You think of Missouri as a southern state? I assure you, no one in Missouri does. It was a slave state, but that's the only southern-ish thing about it. It certainly did not secede. Krychek 14:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 'Lisa on Ice' commentary
In the 'Lisa on Ice' commentary, it's stated that Mike what's-his-name is from Springfield, Massachusetts and jokingly commented that that's the very one in which the Simpsons reside. -- General Wesc 02:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
As you said, he jokingly commented. What's to say that wasn't a joke too? Iwhaiwnfi 19:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Location
I forget the episode, but Lisa said that if you look at the clues it's possible to figure out the location of Springfield. I wonder about this because I remember them being able to plant lemon trees, but also having snow. If Springfield is in area that gets snow (and I don't think they were all just freak storms), it can't also have a climate that's hot enough for long enough to grow lemon trees. Any ideas? From different comments at various times by various characters, it seems that snow in winter is expected by Springfieldians. —This unsigned comment was added by 70.49.240.116 (talk • contribs) .
- Ok i read this article, all the descriptions on geography point to it being a southern state. The only contradiction is merely a mention that the state was part of the North. It's either Texas (if you believe in the coastal regions which were added later on in the show) or Kentucky (the whole show), and with that we are leaning toward Kentucky.
I heard that commentary, and he was clearly joking. And his name is Mike Scully.
[edit] Opening sequence
I can't remember whoch episode, and my American geography doesn't extent beyond the location of four or five states, but there was an opening sequence where the camera zoomer out of the Simpson's house and up into space giving a clear view of the location, if not the name, of the state. I can't be much more help than that I'm afraid! Bt I'm sure someone else can help further, and if we get this information we should probably add it to the article.ShizuokaSensei 01:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yep - the opener was from On a Clear Day I Can't See My Sister; it was based on Powers of Ten. I keep meaning to take a look at the YouTube version of the opener and compare it with Google Maps (which is the only way I could figure anything out - I don't know US states v. well, apart from knowing that Metropolis should be in Delaware). --Eric TF Bat 01:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I believe it was Ohio. --Yancyfry jr 03:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hank Scorpio
Why do we think Hank Scorpio is a resident of Springfield's State? DJ Clayworth 18:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] North Takoma possible fictional location
Due to all the varring evidance of a the loaction of Springfield USA, and the evidence of NT and TA and a producers quote of "North Tacoma" or "North Takoma" it is fare to asume that this it the most likely location. The fictional state itself has to be somewhere, my sugestion is that it could mostlikely be wedged in between Oregen and California making four states on the western seaboard, but due to pollution and other factors this border area is marked on all maps as belonging to Oregen and California. It also has to be part of the local mountain ranges and have part of the valleys of California that grow Oranges and wine as although i dont know whats needed for a lemon tree but this would suffice. 0209 am bst 14th of the 8th 2006.
[edit] Should I add this?
A few years ago, I believe 4/5 years ago, I wrote a letter to Simpsons Comics asking which state they reside in. And to my suprise, in Issue #70, they included my letter in their editorial column. They said Springfield is a fictional place, in any place you want it to be, or something along the lines. I don't have the copy of that comic book anymore, but I will try and find one at a comic shop so I can provide the letter.
Tinkleheimer 00:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge proposal
There was a merge tag on the Springfield (The Simpsons) page which suggested this article be merged into there. A proposal on the talk page discussed having the merge go the other way. I agree with this idea, as the debate on what state Springfield is from takes up a huge chunk of the page, and I feel most of that discussion would be better placed here. Radagast83 17:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Moved town
A big factor to be mentioned a lot here I think is the episode where Homer becomes head of the binmen and the entire city is moved, this is mentioned in several subsequent episodes as having happened. This could help explain discrepancies in location (i.e. one minute middle of the desert, the next its a harsh winter) as Springfield is actually in TWO states.
Episodes do not nessesarily come in the sequential order in which they were made also so you can have stuff before and after.--Josquius 23:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] State Section Needs Cleanup
The main reason why I am requesting this clean up is the fact that it seems someone wrote about regions which is not what the section is about. The regions still mention specific states and this section should be cleaned up.
I do have a format suggestion about the state list. I think it would look nice to list both reasons why Springfieid can or/and can't be in each specific state. Sawblade05 09:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Anoteher reason for being on East Coast:
I think we should remember that Hurricanes only are only possible on the East Coast of the United States (no Climate Changing comments please!). Shouldn't this rule out most states? The sound 06:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pumping gas in New Jersey
Not that there's really much evidence in favor of Springfield, New Jersey being the Springfield of the Simpsons, but it's worth noting that while state law does forbid customers from operating gas pumps by themselves, I've certainly seen people (myself included) do it, mainly to save a little time if the gas station is very busy. In fact, my late father usually did this task for himself, and I can't think of a single time anyone objected...not even when he did it in Springfield!
Besides, a lot of things are illegal in New Jersey (and presumably most other states): locking your baby (even accidentally) inside a newspaper rack, painting "El Barto" on various walls and other surfaces, pretending to steal your friend's car so he can commit insurance fraud, and so forth, all of which happen in The Simpsons. In short, whether something is illegal in a given state isn't particularly helpful in this determination. 69.142.150.232 22:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Mjj237 22:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
I just watched the Third trailer for the movie and in it there is a scene of Bart and Ned walking to the top of a hill and Ned saying you can see the four states which surround Springfeild - "ohio, Nevada, Maine, Kentucky."
Yes, but those states are nowhere near eachother. Acastus69 09:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pumping gas in Oregon
While you're on the subject of pumping gas, there's a section in this article that says it's illegal to pump your own gas in Oregon. I didn't delete it because I'm not sure of the law, but, like the comment about New Jersey, I'm sure that some people do it to save time. Also, I believe it's not illegal to pump your own gas if you're in a business vehicle, which I also believe includes private vehicles used for business. Maybe the Simpsonmobile is still technically the Pretzelmobile? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.150.220.113 (talk) 05:19, 22 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] South Dakota?
"An FBI agent, in a successful attempt to set up Congressmen Bob Arnold, poses as an “oil company" executive who wants to drill for oil in Teddy Roosevelt’s head on Mount Rushmore and offers Congressmen Bob Arnold a bribe to get permission to do so. Just so there is no confusion there is an amusing picture showing what this might look like. Obviously it would make no sense for him to try and bribe a congressman who was not in control of the district in which Mount Rushmore resides, namely the one and only district there is in SOUTH DAKOTA."
The problem with this argument is that to drill in a National Monument like Mt. Rushmore would require approval from the federal government, not just a single representative.
Couch 18:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Eastern Time Zone?
"In the episode "Bart the Fink", when Bart questions the local bankers about the check he gave to Krusty, a phone call is made to New York at 2:01 PM, then to Cayman Islands at 2:02 PM. Afterwards, a fax is made to Washington D.C at 2:03 PM, and Krusty is arrested in Springfield at 2:04 PM. The first three places are all in UTC-5 time zone when the Northern Hemisphere is in winter, when the episode was first aired. And assuming the sequence of events is meant to show how quickly the authority reacts to tax evasion, that would put Springfield in the North American Eastern Time Zone."
This is only true if all the times were shown local. It makes more sense, however, that all times are relative to Springfield's time zone, meaning it could be anywhere.
Couch 18:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Amsih
"In the episode "Old Yeller Belly", the Amish build a treehouse for the Simpsons, indicating that Springfield is in either Ohio or Pennsylvania. Also, Milhouse's mother mentions Mechanicsburg; there is a Mechanicsburg in both Ohio and Pennsylvania."
There are Amish in other states besides just Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Couch 18:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
