Image talk:Supermarinespitfire.JPG
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This pre-war image of a spitfire has been reversed at some point (the aircraft serial is backward) it has then been altered to make the "19" on the tail read the right way. Can we not find a copyright free picture of an early Spitfire that has not been "altered". 21:25, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Copyright note: The image is an RAF photo, pre-1956, and therefore the Crown copyright has expired and the photo is in the public domain (Crown copyright expires after 50 yrs).
>(rev (again); who made the photo ? Sow us any docs that this image is free of copyright) Denniss -
I've changed the copyright notice on the Spitfire again because, as I mentioned in my note, I contacted M P HOUGHTON at the Ministry of Defence, UK, to confirm that this images is in the public domain, formerly Crown Copyright. Please see the entry to confirm the meaning of Crown copyright: any image taken by MoD personnel in the course of his duties is Crown copyright. So, the creator's (i.e. the photographer's) identity is not relevent to the copyright discussion, since the MoD has confirmed that the photo was Crown copyright. 156.34.46.69 13:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Here from the RFC
I am here from the RFC page. I am not a copyright expert. But we have an article on Crown Copyright. That article says "Transitional provisions apply for 50 years after the entry into force of the 1988 Act which mean that no unpublished material will lose its copyright protection until 2040-01-01. ". Is this the 50-year expiry date that the uploader is talking about? Or did Mr/Ms Houghton definitely say that it is now public domain? Telsa (talk) 18:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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According to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/legal/pdf/copyright_full.pdf "For works in Crown copyright the duration of copyright depends on the date of creation, or (if the work has been published) the date of publication"
According to the flow chart on p. 15, appendix 1, for any photograph "created before 1 June 1957", "copyright expires 50 years after creation".
Therefore this photograph is in the public domain.
[edit] Public Domain
As this image has been altered at some point (it has been reversed and altered) then does not the copyright belong to whoever changed it (presumably fairly recently). Perhaps we shoud ask the MOD for a copy of the public domain version facing the right way !. Out of interest the image the right way round can be found on other websites one has the caption K9795, the ninth production Spitfire, being flown by the CO of 19 Squadron Sqn. Ldr. Iliffe Cozens in 1938.MilborneOne 22:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
