Talk:Superior Defender Gundam Force

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Contents 1 Rumors 2 Would someone please check 3 Cleanup? 4 Samurai vs Musha

[edit] Rumors

Verifiability? Hackwrench 10:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Things said at cons and certain sources. Not everything in life will have a nice quote or weblink you can cite.--HellCat86 11:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Would someone please check

I know nothing of the topic. This edit came from an account also used for vandalism, so someone who does know the topic should check it closely. - Jmabel | Talk 06:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• The stuff about white Bagu Bagu? It's correct--HellCat86 10:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup?

I think this article could do with some clean up. It covers alot of ground but is thus bloated. I'd suggest we move the character section to it's own entry and perhaps just keep a mention of the main characters (Shute and the Gundams, DA trio and the Zakos)--HellCat86 11:54, 18 September 2006 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Superior_Defender_Gundam_Force_characters --HellCat86 12:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, the insinuation that 'most anime is meant for kids even in Japan' is ludicrous. I've seen this in transformers articles too, I have no idea who keeps putting it in.

Not really, it's true. Whilst there are certain anime shows that skew towards the older fans, the fact is alot of non-Japanese anime fans see all this 'mature' content and automatically assume just about every anime is intended for adults. Japan has different standards, so there kids shows can get away with more serious elements. Specfically in relation to this article, alot of SDGF's attackers ranted stuff like "Gundam isn't this kiddy crap, it's mature stuff for adults!". That's incorrect as there are alot more signs which show which market it's aimed at that aren't seen outside of Japan. SEED for example has various web and print content aimed at kids.--HellCat86 19:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Samurai vs Musha

The show highlights the characters to be "Musha," not "Samurai." "Musha (武者)" is a shortened form of Bugeisha (武芸者). I tend to avoid all dubbed anime these days so I don't know if the show's English dub (mistakenly) says "Samurai" or not. Anyways, I've checked the official (Japanese) website http://www.sunrise-inc.co.jp/sd_gundamforce/. (My Japanese isn't that good so please feel free to double check it.) Seven 03:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The official term is Musha Gundam but most fans take it easily enough that Musha Gundam is based on samurai. Just look at it- Ark is based on feudal Japan, Musha Gundams practice bushido, wear intricate samurai/shogun armour, there's a clear class system based on the one practiced in Japan at that time, etc. It's all an extension of how the original 'real type' Gundam was based on samurai armour--HellCat86 11:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll check the official website more throughly (when I have time.) Though, isn't it safer to use "fictional martial artists" rather than "fictional samurai"? Seven 21:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Not really. On a series like Musha Bancho Fuunroku I'd say yes, because that involves more of various fighting styles in a modern day school setting. However, Musha Gundam is generally based on classic samurai. Specifically for SDGF, Bell Wood even says during Bakunetsumaru's first appearance "He's some kind of samurai!". I've already listed most of the reasons why Musha Gundam counts as samurai. Listing it as 'fictional martial artists' would also be unfair as the Knight Gundam element of the show gets it labelled under 'Fictional Knights'--HellCat86 21:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)