Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Skinny McGee

The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

[edit] User:Skinny_McGee

Suspected sockpuppets

• Lizstjames
• Plooa
• Indigo1032
• Star525
• Pumpkinhead5
• Defender99
• Midsyndicate

Suspected Sockpuppet IPs The IPs below used for editing this article, to avoid 3RR during which time it was also being reverted by the above names, point to Chardon, Ohio (home city of Midnight_Syndicate the subject of the disputed article Midnight_Syndicate). The city of Chardon is referenced by the Star Beacon (Ashtabula, OH), October 30, 2006, which is a reference that was posted by SkinnyMcGee and shown to be the band’s address on their official website.

• 67.140.91.34
• 67.140.80.142
• 67.140.86.158
• 67.140.88.100
• 67.140.82.78
• 67.140.91.179
• 67.140.91.39
• 67.140.92.106
• 162.40.19.208
• 162.40.57.185
• 162.40.20.6

3RR (3x to 6x) diffs Latest edits on November 17-18, aside from being 3RR, also show that SkinnyMcGee to be tag-teaming as Pumpkinhead5 to avoid 3RR and that Dionyseus helps SkinnyMcGee in making reverts but does not try to discuss or mediate either.

• 02:23, 17 November 2006 Skinny McGee [1]
• 03:21, 17 November 2006 Skinny McGee [2]
• 04:13, 17 November 2006 Skinny McGee [3]
• 13:41, 17 November 2006 Pumpkinhead5 [4]
• 21:40, 17 November 2006 Dionyseus [5]
• 23:20, 18 November 2006 Skinny McGee [6]

Shows SkinnyMcGee to be 67.140.91.34 to avoid 3RR. See "Reasons for suspicions" below.

• 15:29, 9 November 2006 Skinny McGee [7]
• 15:49, 9 November 2006 67.140.91.34 [8]
• 23:52, 9 November 2006 Skinny McGee [9]

Shows SkinnyMcGee tag-teaming with various other names and Chardon, Ohio IPs to avoid 3RR. See "Reasons for suspicions" below.

• 02:00, 1 November 2006 Skinny McGee [10]
• 02:10, 1 November 2006 67.140.91.34 [11]
• 04:01, 1 November 2006 67.140.91.34 [12]
• 15:00, 1 November 2006 Defender99 [13]
• 19:18, 1 November 2006 Skinny McGee [14]
• 17:06, 2 November 2006 Skinny McGee [15]

• 12:27, 20 October 2006 Star525 [16]
• 17:50, 20 October 2006 Indigo1032 [17]
• 23:05, 20 October 2006 67.140.92.106 [18]
• 23:07, 20 October 2006 67.140.92.106 [19]
• 12:38, 21 October 2006 Pumpkinhead5 [20]

• 16:09, 18 October 2006 67.140.80.142 [21]
• 17:42, 18 October 2006 67.140.80.142 [22]
• 19:30, 18 October 2006 67.140.80.142 [23]
• 22:10, 18 October 2006 67.140.80.142 [24]
• 22:11, 18 October 2006 67.140.80.142 [25]
• 22:15, 18 October 2006 67.140.80.142 [26]

Reasons for suspicions

• 9 November 2006: 67.140.91.34 makes post [27] but forgets to sign in and replies in summary: ‘’“I was trying to add the link to Haunted Attraction in the body of the article as a reference because another editor disputes the use of the phrase 'the standard', but I guess I did it wrong. Sorry!”’’
• The editors arguing over the above mentioned reference were SkinnyMcGee and GuardianZ on Talk:Midnight_Syndicate
• GuardianZ makes edit. [28]
• SkinnyMcGee reverts immediately afterwards (with one minute).[29]
• 67.140.91.34 also removes Rfc requested by GuardianZ to help. No wonder there were never any comments on the page by any other editors!
• SkinnyMcGee and 67.140.91.34 revert twice in 10 minutes [30]
• SkinnyMcGee reverts back to link spam [31] that was reverted by User:Heligoland but completely alters article as 67.140.91.34 with deceptive edits. [32]

More past abuse Further instances of suspected sockpuppetry (also vandalism) for the above include:

• 69.177.28.38 who removed a post that referenced Nox Arcana (a band that was formed by one of the former members of Midnight Syndicate) [33], then immediately jumped over to the Midnight Syndicate page to post defamatory comments against Joseph Vargo of Nox Arcana. [34]

and after it was reverted, he then placed this longer defamatory statement [35]

Adding User:Lizstjames to the list

• 67.140.86.158 made edit [36] that is same promotional material as [37] posted by Lizstjames.
• After promotional material was rv, 67.140.86.158 posted same again [38]
• Same material [39] again rv by Midsyndicate who claims to be Edward Douglas [40] (band founder) which shows that he is editing his own bio and also indicates his disfavor of former partner.
• 162.40.19.208 refers to "disgruntled former business partner" in summary. [41]...
• Skinny_McGee's numerous reversions and removal of verifiable sources also are summarized with "disgruntled business partner" [42] which indicate that Skinny McGee and 162.40.19.208 and Midsyndicate, if not same, are all working under same agenda.

Comments It is suspected that SkinnyMcGee is actually Edward Douglas User:Midsyndicate editing his own Wiki bio (presumably under one or more of the above names and certainly matching one or more IP). SkinnyMcGee keeps referring to a "disgruntled business partner" in his summaries, which lead me to believe that he is personally involved.

I feel there's enough here to make a good case for my suspicions. Please vist my user page for a more detailed report and comments on the edit war. Peacekpr 07:03, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

It has been confirmed that SkinnyMcGee has multiple sockpuppets, some sleeper socks as well. Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Skinny_McGee. I am still waiting on results for some of the other user names and IPs. Because I began this investigation later, I may have to return another request for some of the older names that remain suspect. Peacekpr 21:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

False, User:Skinny_McGee does not have multiple sockpuppets, only one, User:Defender99. A look at the edit history for User:Defender99 shows only one edit. User:Skinny_McGee explains who User:Defender99 is: [43]. Dionyseus 21:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Further history indicates another possible sock or meat puppet. This may require a new report. Peacekpr 02:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I was reviewing Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets and it clearly states that "cases of sockpuppetry older than one week are useless." Almost every one of the names you list as my suspected sock puppets falls well outside this standard (your most recent addition hasn't edited in over nine months). I've looked up the most recent edits of each -

• Lizstjames - February 19, 2006
• Plooa - October 22, 2006
• Indigo1032 - October 22, 2006
• Star525 - October 20, 2006
• Pumpkinhead5 - November 17, 2006
• Defender99 - November 1, 2006
• Midsyndicate - February 20, 2006

So, not only are they not my sock puppets, all but one don't even qualify for investigation. - Skinny McGee 02:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Conclusions

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Midnight Syndicate seems to be looking into this issue far more thoroughly with a team of arbitrators than one administrator could. That arbitration seems to be close to closing with active decisions. So will close this to defer to them. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)