Talk:The Bangles
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Abby Travis is still in the band,is she a member of this group?
How do you spell a girl's name Michael Steele or Michele Steele?
I'm not sure their two big songs deserve subpages of their own; most people have a hard enough time making encyclopedia-length articles about an entire album (exceptions to perhaps Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club, Nevermind, and The Wall). I would like to be proven wrong, though. :-) --Koyaanis Qatsi
The band's official name is Bangles, not The Bangles. The singers stated that in some interviews. Their first name was The Bangs and when they learned of a another band of the same name they dropped the 'The' and added 'les'.
- Do you propose that we move it? --malber 15:46, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
- Actually "The Bangles" appears to be the current official name: see the official site; the most recent album is also credited to "the Bangles" on the cover. Bangles already redirects here, so all is well. Jgm 16:20, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
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- The "The" didn't star to appear until their 2003 release, and I'm pretty sure on all their album/singles during the 80s had just "Bangles" on the covers. Now I had this thing for Susanna Hoffs back in the day so I never missed her interviews and TV appearances and I can recall very well her saying that they dropped the "the" and added the "les" when the original The Bangs complained. I agree that we should redirect The Bangles to Bangles, not vice versa.--212.200.204.240 01:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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- You have an excellent point and "The" is not on the cover material. Since this is a complex move, because the history of the pages needs to be rearranged as well, I'll put it up for a request move which means that we'll take a (quick) vote and see if there is agreement. KittenKlub 07:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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"Bangling on?" Is that encyclopedic? --malber 15:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
How about throwing in a genre of music in there? "Independent all-woman band" hardly classifies as one. Shatha 21:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
"A Hazy Shade of Winter" isn't quite a "hit" song by The Bangles... Simon and Garfunkel recorded it back in the 60s. Maybe the article should be edited to reflect that it was a cover. Slavakion 06:05, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was no move. -- tariqabjotu 01:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Requested move
The Bangles → Bangles – Because the "The" part was not part of the name of the band and never mentioned on cover material, publications. (See discussion above as well) KittenKlub 07:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC) KittenKlub 07:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Survey
Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
- Support. KittenKlub 08:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Their official name now is apparently The Bangles, probably because that's how they were most commonly referred to anyway (despite what the album covers in the 80s said), which is what the article title should reflect. --Serge 19:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose for 3 reasons (see discussion below). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Susanna Hoffs was recently interviewed by a Big L UK radio presenter and she explained how and why they renamed to Bangles. I renamed my mp3 collection after that interview!! --212.200.213.246 14:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
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- Three reasons for not doing this move, at least at this time:
- What appears on album covers can vary considerably from album to album (check out The Carpenters' albums), and has a lot to do with the staff and artists hired by the record company.
- If there are reliable sources for the Bangles' position on their name, we should produce them before changing the article title from this most recognized form of the band's name, as best-known names are frequently the preferred titles for WP articles. (Consider: which is more likely to be said: "Ladies and gentlemen — Bangles!" or "Ladies and gentlemen — the Bangles!" Compare and contrast with The Grass Roots and Simple Minds.)
- We have reliable evidence for their current use of "the Bangles" as their name, and it is not unreasonable to use the current official name, especially if the old one is in question, unsupported, or ambiguously documented.
- Since there is a redirect from Bangles and the definite article is on the official website, it's a little hard to see why there should be a move. There are more important things in the world! 86.135.89.125 17:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
[edit] Did Prince really write Manic Monday?
Last time I heard about this, it was still a rumour. Is it confirmed? Is there a source? --maf 17:02, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- It was confirmed ages ago. He is credited as Christopher. Just google for it and you'll notice that it is listed everywhere. On first glance I see that the Vocal Hall of Fame also mentions it. KittenKlub 17:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I googled for [christopher prince confirmed "manic monday"] and got 386 results, none of which gives a confirmation (nor a denial). As one of them wrote, "everybody knows that Prince wrote Manic Moday", which pretty much sums it all. Still, I'm going to put a {citation}, not on this article but on Manic Monday since it exists. Thanks. --maf 10:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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- As I was editing Manic Monday, I found a history of the Apollonia 6 album, written and produced by Prince, which confirms Manic Monday had been recorded for that album and then pulled. That serves as source and lets me rest at peace with this subject. --maf 10:46, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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- It's written everywhere that Christopher is Prince. We only need reliable sources. And if they publish it, it is a confirmation. You do not need an interview with Prince where he admits it. I put in my usual reference book which is Dutch, however it is the official publication of the Dutch Top 40, so that's about as authorative as you can get, and even they mention it.KittenKlub 10:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Did Doll Revolution really get "rave reviews"?
Second QOTD, sorry... Was this right? I only recall seeing bad press about the CD when it came out, and the featured review on the album's article gives it 3/5. Again, are there sources? --maf 17:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- As on most pages, the only addition is All Music. So if you have another review you can add it. Basically All Music is one of the few professional sources who keeps older reviews online, because newspapers tend to delete it after two years or so. KittenKlub 17:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Doll Revolution certainly did not receive rave reviews, it received mixed reviews at best. I made the change to the article. 69.157.184.173 08:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)ganjavih@canada.com
[edit] Lead image in danger of deletion
Image:Bangles 1980s.jpg is currently tagged as having its author unidentified. It's obviously a publicity shot and fair use is being claimed on that basis, so who owns the copyright on the image is kind of beside the point, but what can you do... Anyway, can anyone help track down any identifying information on this, so it isn't deleted by the overzealous among us? Cheers, Postdlf 23:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- The overzealous are probably going to delete it anyhow. I've used another picture from their press/promotional section. Luckily they have identified it as such on their official website (unlike most websites) KittenKlub 23:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- That's good, but the 1980's image is a better illustration of the band, because it shows them during their...well, their "relevant" period. Maybe someone has a fan mag from the '80s? Or an autographed picture? Postdlf 17:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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- It'll be almost impossible to find anything which has a correct licence. You can't use fan mags, so that means you have to find a fan from the 80s who is willing to both scan and donate it into GFDL. Honestly the current image practice is to restricted especially since non-commercial images are no longer allowed and almost all non-copyrighted images are non-commercial only and for good reason as well. KittenKlub 19:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] For God's sake it's Bangles not The Bangles
I have press releases from the band where the sentances start with 'Bangles are', not 'The Bangles are' and each press release is singed as 'love, Bangles' or something like that. If anyone wants to see it I can mail it to them. Would you now stop claming you know better than the band itself????????? Can there be a better proof than this? Please!! --212.200.212.171 15:07, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia where there is no such thing as common sense. KittenKlub 15:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] IS ABBY A BANGLE?
She´s still in the band playing bass and doing chorus for more than a year.I honestly think that she is a member now.
No, she is not an official member of the band. Her name should be removed from the list. 69.157.176.139 04:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)ganjavih@canada.com
I removed Abby Travis from the Band Members lists. She is not a band member, she has been touring with the band. 69.157.184.173 08:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)ganjavih@canada.com
